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12 week cycle? - 04-14-2009, 03:50 PM

Just wanted to get some info on a cycle Im gonna run in june:

week 1: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 2: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 3: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 4: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 5: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 6: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 7: 250 sust 200 deca
week 8: 250 sust 200 deca
week 9-12: 500 sust

or should I switch weeks 4-8 with 9-12 cause I want to cut up for the last 4 weeks? thanks... stats are 5"9" 175lbs. 3 past cycles

p.s I have a bunch of clomids how should my pct look?
   
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Just wanted to get some info on a cycle Im gonna run in june:

week 1: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 2: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 3: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 4: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 5: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 6: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 7: 250 sust 200 deca
week 8: 250 sust 200 deca
week 9-12: 500 sust

or should I switch weeks 4-8 with 9-12 cause I want to cut up for the last 4 weeks? thanks... stats are 5"9" 175lbs. 3 past cycles

p.s I have a bunch of clomids how should my pct look?
If it were me i would do the 500mg of sust week 4-8 instead of 9-12, mainly because of your long esters in the sust. Plus you will get more prop with the d-bol weeks 4-6, which will take you a step higher after your first 3 weeks. jus my 2cc's.


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thanks - 04-15-2009, 10:17 PM

how about the clomids?

and a 23 gauge 1" 1/4 pins are good for glute shots right?

cause the past two cycles I have done I couldnt walk the next day, and hurt like hell the day after, any suggestions?
   
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how about the clomids?

and a 23 gauge 1" 1/4 pins are good for glute shots right?

cause the past two cycles I have done I couldnt walk the next day, and hurt like hell the day after, any suggestions?
I dont think its your pins that would give you the pain. I use 22 or 23ga 1" 1and 1/4 is fine. Sometimes its the gear, but sust at 250 or 500mg a pop should not hurt. Its probably the way you are injecting. Do you know anatomy? there is a great spot where your glut max overlaps your glut medius and under the medius is the glut minimus. Thats a deep spot of muscle tissue. When you stick yourself have a good steady hand, dont angle the pin and dont move it around when injecting and inject nice and slow. Dont flex your muscles when you inject, relax. You can even sit down, I do sometimes. And you do draw back a little to get that little air bubble and not blood once you get the pin in right?
As for the clomids look around on some posts and you can see what some of the vets say like mac76, Elvia, Kaju etc. Do a little reseach on it. Its pretty basic.


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thanks - 04-16-2009, 11:28 PM

that is the first time I herd about that way of doing it so ill try it that way. but thanks for the info, that is why I probally got pain.

and yea I def. draw back.....
   
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Just wanted to get some info on a cycle Im gonna run in june:

week 1: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 2: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 3: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 4: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 5: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 6: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 7: 250 sust 200 deca
week 8: 250 sust 200 deca
week 9-12: 500 sust

or should I switch weeks 4-8 with 9-12 cause I want to cut up for the last 4 weeks? thanks... stats are 5"9" 175lbs. 3 past cycles

p.s I have a bunch of clomids how should my pct look?
A couple of things in imo. This sounds as though it is your first or second cycle? Why not just go D-bol and Sus skip the Deca for another cycle you don't want to have to deal with possible Decca Dick. I would also use Nolva at weeks 14 -18 at 40/20/20/20 If you just have Clomid 100/50/50/50 I beleive they are 50 mg tab.
I don't see alot guys recommending Clomid or Nolva throughout cycle. personally I think a dose once or twice a week, will not effect any gains but will be helpful when you want to start your natural Test. Push the Sus to 500mg (250 2 x a week) and D-bol
   
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do - 05-01-2009, 09:18 PM

do you think I should go 15 weeks or is that pushing it?
   
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do you think I should go 15 weeks or is that pushing it?
do u have enough deca? ? ? runn'n that deca that short of time is like hummpN a NUNN, it just dont happen.

dbol= 25mg 4weeks
SUS= 250mgmg every 3days= 10weeks

piss on the deca, Bro deca isnt somethn you can choose to run in middle of cycle for such a short time and think it's gona help.
if you choose deca you start deca from day 1! deca alone needs to be ran for atleast 9week's.
i use the 1inch 25guage. theres no need to put bigger holes in yer as or quad every 4days cause you wanna suck the juice in the plunger faster.
and yes bro fer yer body weight 1inch is plenty deep! do you have yer gear already????

if not maybe you should run this cycle. I think this cycle willbe better for yer knowledge bro... Plus the gains will be awsome.

dbol= 25mgs 4weeks
Test Enanthate 350mg's every 5days 11weeks
deca 250mg's every 5days 10weeks

Got milk thistle? buy it at walmart, (protects the liver) drink piss loads of water, Dont worry bout the deca dick everbody talk's about! cases are minimul, not even enough to talk about, thats why yer test E is higher than yer deca.

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how about the clomids?

and a 23 gauge 1" 1/4 pins are good for glute shots right?

cause the past two cycles I have done I couldnt walk the next day, and hurt like hell the day after, any suggestions?
that means get new gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! plain and simple man.
   
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Just wanted to get some info on a cycle Im gonna run in june:

week 1: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 2: 20mg dbol and 250 sust
week 3: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 4: 30mg dbol and 250 sust
week 5: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 6: 30mg dbol and 250 sust 200 deca
week 7: 250 sust 200 deca
week 8: 250 sust 200 deca
week 9-12: 500 sust

or should I switch weeks 4-8 with 9-12 cause I want to cut up for the last 4 weeks? thanks... stats are 5"9" 175lbs. 3 past cycles

p.s I have a bunch of clomids how should my pct look?
There is no point in running deca like that. As others have stated if you run deca you need to run it for a decent time. I wouldn't run deca less than 10 weeks. If you do it do it right. Run it from the start with your test and for the majority of your cycle. I don't really see the need in changing your test dose at the end either. Just keep it simple. Imo you should do 300-500mg Sust for 10-14 weeks. Just keep it at the same amount. And taper it at the end to aid recovery.

You don't need the deca. Just use a combo of test and dbol. If you want you could throw in some orals at the end of your cycle. Possibily look into winny for the final 4 weeks. Just ensure there is plenty of time in between orals and of course use a good liver protector.


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Ok - 05-04-2009, 06:35 PM

Just took my first shot today 250 of sust next Monday I want to up it to 500 and keep that for 9 weeks then for the last 2weeks I'll go down to 250 how does that sound. I'm also using 200 deca for 10 weeks.
   
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