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Don't Buy Anything With Your Credit Card Arrests Throughout The Us And Uk - 01-31-2005, 10:12 AM

Edition CNN: Internet crime: Tracking the credit card trail


Credit card evidence can be used by police

Credit card companies are turning detective in order to help police track down the large number of people entering any kind of illegal websites.

When rock star Pete Townshend gave his credit card details to view indecent images of children, for what he claims was research, he left a trail found by the police months later.
The card number - which had been scrambled but was decoded by the US Postal Information Service along with thousands of others - inevitably led back to him.

Now card companies are using the same method to track down those involved in illegal internet activities including child porn and anabolic steroid trade.

Visa has an internet monitoring programme costing hundreds of thousands of pounds a year.

It's a constant battle and we continue trying to stop the use of Visa cards for this type of abuse.



Jon Prideaux
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It seeks out millions of websites to trace those which charge users from their credit cards to access illegal drugs.

Visa spokesman Jon Prideaux told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Visa does not agree with Visa cards being used for anabolic steroid trade or child pornography and we do a lot to prevent it.

"We have a programme which is scanning a programme of about one million websites a day in order to find those sites which may be involved in anabolic steroid trade or child pornography."

Mr Prideaux said about 30,000 suspicious websites were initially identified, then that number was reduced to a few hundred after further examination.

He said: "Most of them have been closed down and the rest are in the process of being closed down.

"But it's a constant battle and we continue trying to stop the use of Visa cards for this type of abuse."

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Visa submits the website names to the police, but said it does not have the names of individual users.

"The programme we've got is very much looking at the people who are selling this, from a merchant perspective.

"We're not jet looking from the cardholders' side of the equation, it's much more difficult to pick that up.

"We can obviously go away and look, and say: 'Well, here's a site that's accepting it', but we can't necessarily go in and raid it."

The police need to get a move on and the government needs to finance it as a matter of urgency



Deborah Shipley MP

He said although Visa did not know who the clients were, the police could track them down via the websites.

Mr Prideaux said banks were sometimes fooled into collaborating with illegal pharmacy or porn website, when the content of the site can initially appear to be quite innocent.

Labour MP Deborah Shipley, who campaigns on illegal drugs and child protection, told the same programme: "I welcome what Visa is doing, but I'd like to know are all credit card companies doing that.

"Those that aren't doing it I would like to see blacklisted by all major companies in this country, and refuse them their credit."

But the problem for police would appear to be prosecution, rather than detection.

They have only arrested 1,300 people from a list of 6,000 suspected offenders.

Deputy assistant commissioner Carole Howlett, spokeswoman on illegal drug sales and internet child pornography for the Association of Chief Police Officers, last year asked for more police resources to help.

Ms Shipley said £500,000 had been given, but the police needed about £2m to tackle the huge scale of the problem.

"The police need to get a move on and the government needs to finance it as a matter of urgency," she said.

Although users could throw away their computers to try and escape detection, the credit card evidence is enough to nail them, she added. undefinedundefined
   
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01-31-2005, 10:34 AM

i find it kinda amazing how steroid sales and usage are equated to being just as bad as child pornography. what a friggin joke!!!!!!!!!
all because a bunch of fat lazy politicians in washington feel its cheating to use steroids in professional sports they get labeled as being as bad as child porn WTF!!!!!!!!
   
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i find it kinda amazing how steroid sales and usage are equated to being just as bad as child pornography. what a friggin joke!!!!!!!!!
all because a bunch of fat lazy politicians in washington feel its cheating to use steroids in professional sports they get labeled as being as bad as child porn WTF!!!!!!!!
I read that sentence too and couldn't concentrate on the rest of the article. Child porn and steroids huh? Big connection there! What fucking idiots???!!! Guess I'll get rid of my Visa and switch to Matercard! lol.
   
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01-31-2005, 03:11 PM

I can see a connection there.....hmmm....Child Porn....steroids...aahhh....child porn....steroids.....hmmm.....nope maybe not. What a bunch of crap.
   
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I can see a connection there.....hmmm....Child Porn....steroids...aahhh....child porn....steroids.....hmmm.....nope maybe not. What a bunch of crap.

u guys dont see the obvious connection.....child porn....too lazy to get a real woman so you have to settle for a little child......steroids....too lazy to make your own muscle so you gotta get some "fake muscle"....lol
   
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u guys dont see the obvious connection.....child porn....too lazy to get a real woman so you have to settle for a little child......steroids....too lazy to make your own muscle so you gotta get some "fake muscle"....lol
Dagummit....i knew there was a connection somewhere!
   
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u guys dont see the obvious connection.....child porn....too lazy to get a real woman so you have to settle for a little child......steroids....too lazy to make your own muscle so you gotta get some "fake muscle"....lol
wow you figured it out, now all the media will be writing the same thing in their newspapers LOL
   
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