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best price for ******** ancillaries? - 02-08-2005, 01:02 AM

Any one have any sources with cheap ancillaries??
   
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I was thinking more along the lines of PCT gear.
   
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I was thinking more along the lines of PCT gear.

you must have your eyes closed then
   
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you must have your eyes closed then
Dugie, look down the list to the left. Tamoxifen Citrate and Clomiphene Citrate are what you're looking for.


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lol man you guys rag on me a lot.

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Adex is liquidex correct?
   
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Adex is liquidex correct?
Technically, it's the other way around. Liquidex is Arimidex or Anastrozole.

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lol man you guys rag on me a lot.
You make it so easy.


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You shouldn't need any.


The main reasons for the wide-spread use of oxandrolone in sports is because it is very appealing to female athletes as well as male athletes. It causes little or no virilization properties, demonstrated by its medical uses to treat women. This is rather surprising since oxandrolone does not aromatize either. It's the only steroid that is both safe and convenient without producing excess estrogen. That makes it particularly useful when cutting up for a contest or preventing an increase in body-fat due to estrogenic effects. In fact the main use of oxandrolone to a bodybuilder is in the maintenance of lean mass while reducing body-fat. Oxandrolone itself may not actually reduce body-fat, but it too plays a key role in the process. Like most non-aromatizing compounds it has a repressing effect on the appetite making it easier for the user to control cravings and stay strict with his diet.

Oxandrolone also has little effect on the body's own natural hormone production. The negative feedback was found to be very minor, meaning that during short term use no suppression of Gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH, start of natural testosterone production) was noted. This meant that whatever gains made, as little as they may have been, were very easily maintained post-cycle. So there was also no use for products like Clomid or Nolvadex in conjunction with oxandrolone consumption. The easy to maintain low gains would indicate a low binding to the androgen receptor. While not extremely high, it should actually be noted that it does have quite decent binding to the androgen receptor. But the reason for its mild effects is quite likely the low dose used. Rarely if ever are doses higher than 20 mg used on a daily basis. Either because of convenience or due to the high price. But comparing that the doses of other steroids this is remarkably low. So its only logical the gains and side-effects aren't particularly notable.

Oxandrolone does not increase strength through androgenic stimulation, at least not primarily. It stimulates the formation of phosphocreatine, a body compound that can replenish ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) , the main energy currency of the living organism. This gives an incredible increase in short term anaerobic performance, the type needed for explosive action such as sprinting and lifting weight. This is one of the reasons people stack creatine with Anavar.


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not exactly sure what you mean by that post.

but OK.
   
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not exactly sure what you mean by that post.

but OK.
DR is trying to tell you that if var is the only thing you are taking, you have no need for ancilliaries. if you are taking test or other products that you have said you would be staying away from then you would need ancilliaries.
   
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this thread is too funny guys ..... nice copy and paste job drider .......i couldnt resist guys ....





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DR is trying to tell you that if var is the only thing you are taking, you have no need for ancilliaries. if you are taking test or other products that you have said you would be staying away from then you would need ancilliaries.
good advice.. no PCT after AS use.
   
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good advice.. no PCT after AS use.
If you had read the info I posted about Anavar, you would understand why.


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so you're saying it has no effect on your HPTA whatsoever?

DR i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you. while it may not aromitize and produce excess estrogen, substances like nolva and clomid are still needed to bring the body back to normal. rather than let the body fend for itself.

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so you're saying it has no effect on your HPTA whatsoever?

DR i'm sorry but i have to disagree with you. while it may not aromitize and produce excess estrogen, substances like nolva and clomid are still needed to bring the body back to normal. rather than let the body fend for itself.
you are wrong on your thinking dugie. here is an exerpt from big cat over on bodybuilding.com. he has been researching this stuff longer than all of us and definately knows what he is talking about!

Oxandrolone also has little effect on the body's own natural hormone production. The negative feedback was found to be very minor, meaning that during short term use no suppression of Gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH, start of natural testosterone production) was noted. This meant that whatever gains made, as little as they may have been, were very easily maintained post-cycle. So there was also no use for products like Clomid or Nolvadex in conjunction with oxandrolone consumption. The easy to maintain low gains would indicate a low binding to the androgen receptor. While not extremely high, it should actually be noted that it does have quite decent binding to the androgen receptor. But the reason for its mild effects is quite likely the low dose used. Rarely if ever are doses higher than 20 mg used on a daily basis. Either because of convenience or due to the high price. But comparing that the doses of other steroids this is remarkably low. So its only logical the gains and side-effects aren't particularly notable.
   
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