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T3 - 02-16-2005, 01:41 AM

I am currently on 500 mg of test trying to cut, I am using clen, i want to add some t3. what are the correct dosages?


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02-16-2005, 03:41 AM

why do you want to add t3?
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02-16-2005, 07:49 AM

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Revised Formula for Cycling and Dosing T3
One subject that keeps coming up that many people have difficulty is with properly dosing and tapering T3. Some of you may have read my previous thread on the subject and this is a slight revision of the formula to basically allow for more time in the heavy doses and less time on the ramp up.

Now while THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER for the persistent rumor that improper t3 use will shut down your thyroid forever, it is also not something to take lightly and like all AAS, should be respected. While there are several people who have claimed to have run t3 up to 300mg ED and then abruptly stopped with no long term damage to their thyroid, needless to say that that is not healthy or desireable and is a sure method to put the fat back on that you worked so hard to lose.

Ive come up with a formula based on the research Ive done, and both theory as well as practical experience point that it should work well for your fat burning goals as well as give you a proper taper so that the thyroid is able to recover its normal function as quickly as possible. The key to this is having a long enough taper coming off of it.

Since origionally designing this formula some will note that I have taken 5% off of the ramp period and placed it toward the back taper instead - this is because I have become convinced that in the presences of exogeneous supplementation, the thyroid shuts down fairly quickly and so the better to spend that time on the taper down.

NOTE 1: If you have never used T3 before, it is suggested that you lessen your constant time (to 30%) and increase your ramp up period (15%) to determine your reaction to t3 before heavy use.

NOTE 2: Synthroid (t4) may also be used to good effect with this formula but of course the maximums are diffferent. In a ratio, t3 seems to be about 4-5x as effective as t3. That means you could be taking 400-500mcg of t4 as an equivalent of 100mcg of t3. This also works with the combo pills now coming out (12.5mcg T3 + 50mcg T4), which for dosing purposes, can be considered 25mcg of T3. While it is not precisely the same and T4 comes on a little less quickly, it is roughly equivalent.


Its pretty simple really – 5/40/55 is a time-based formula whereby X% of the time of the entire cycle should be spent in one of 3 periods – up/constant/down:

RULE – 1
5% of the time is spent ramping up to your maximum
40% of the time is at your maximum
55% of the time is spent ramping down to cessation (nothing)

RULE – 2
Each up/down period is further broken down into equal segments for each dosing level with the emphasis being the dosing level toward the end of the period.

RULE – 3
I dont ever recommend taking more than 150mcg per day maximum and 100mcg over an extended period will do for most. Above this amount is quite catabolic without hefty concurrent doses of AAS. There are those who advocate higher doses and it is feasible to do so but IMO the effectiveness gains above 100mcg are not worth it unless very heavy AAS supplementation is present and accompanied by a substantial increase in dietary protien intake.

Example 1
An example for a 20-day cycle with a max of 100mcg ED using 25mcg pills. Calculate the number of days of each period first (Notice that where the up/down period is unable to be broken into 3 exactly equal parts, the extra is put on the dose level at the last part of the period. (.5) means 1/2 a pill or 12.5mcg

4 days 6days 10days
5% 40% 55%
2 44444444 33222111.5.5.5

Example 2
An example for a 60-day cycle with a max of 125mcg ED using 25mcg pills. Notice that where the up/down period is unable to be broken into 3 exactly equal parts, the extra is put on the dose level at the last part of the period.

12 days 18days 30days
5% 40% 55%
234 555555555555555555555555 44444433333322222221111111.

Hope this helps someone!
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02-18-2005, 10:08 PM

If you do take T3 make sure and cycle off as directed. I don't know if it would fuck your thyroid up for good or not, but it would be better not to risk it. Just change your diet, add some more cardio, and go light weight more reps, that should work fine for cutting.
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