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post first cycle - 03-09-2005, 08:56 PM

Ok, now I guess I'm in trouble. I started my first cecle Feb 4th. I just read all I have to take after this cycle Of enth. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF IT. Nor was I told I would need it. What happens if I don't get clomid and nolvadex ? Are they oral or injects?

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Ok, now I guess I'm in trouble. I started my first cecle Feb 4th. I just read all I have to take after this cycle Of enth. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF IT. Nor was I told I would need it. What happens if I don't get clomid and nolvadex ? Are they oral or injects?

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well if you started feb 4, that was only like 5 weeks ago.....you should take test for at least 10 weeks bro......especially enanthate.....how much a week are you taking (milligrams, not cc's).......visit the sponsors on this board....they will have clomid and nolvadex for you. If you dont take clomid and nolvadex, you risk getting gyno, having low to no test levels for a long time, (lethargy, no sex drive, etc) and risk losing most, if not all of your gains.
   
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i belive you can get either, i dont know for a fact but this is what i have heard around this board, but i do know they are both important, for keeping gains, and staying clear of bitch tits and shit
   
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ye listen to wolfy he knows what hes doin
   
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??? - 03-09-2005, 11:25 PM

I though a milligram was the same as a cc. or is it milliliter? I am up to every other day , 1 cc at a time. So what is a cc equal to?

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And how do I get the clomid and nolvadex ? How much do I need and is iit oral or an injectable? If it is an inject does it go to the muscle or vien?
   
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I though a milligram was the same as a cc. or is it milliliter? I am up to every other day , 1 cc at a time. So what is a cc equal to?

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And how do I get the clomid and nolvadex ? How much do I need and is iit oral or an injectable? If it is an inject does it go to the muscle or vien?

why are you even doing steroids asking questions like this?? a milliliter is the same as a cc......but on your bottle of test, it should say how much test is in a mL.. (usuall 250mg). 1 cc every other day is way to much for a first timer also. Clomid and nolva are orals. I just told you where to get them, from the boards sponsors on this site. And lastly, please dont tell me you are injecting test into your viens.....
   
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03-09-2005, 11:30 PM

If your bottle is say 250mgs of Testosterone enanthate. 1 CC on the syringe is equal to 250mgs of testosterone. So when your injection day is around take 1 CC at that time. On your second shot of the week take another 1 CC. That will total you out at 500mgs of testosterone for the week.
   
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http://www.universalkits.com/researchchems.htm get your nolva and clomid here
   
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As far as the Nolva or clomid go have them on hand since this is your first cycle just in case you start to get symptoms but don't use them unless you have to. They hinder some of your gains if you take them on cycle.
   
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I am using Ara-test 2500 . It is 50mg propionate , 200mg Enantate, and 1 ml Vahiculo . And I have been injecting every other day rotating sites now. I Actually wasn't at first. The guy I got my gear from basically said I could use up to every other day and thats all the info I got. He showed me where to hit in my glute and thats it. So naturally I assumed that's all there was to it. HE obviosly just wanted to get rid of some gear for some quick cash. I am really pissed!! I don't know what I would have done if gyno started. Hell I wouldn't have even known the symtoms. I am very grateful you guys are here and so generous with your knowledge. By the way. what is "Vahiculo" ?

And should I drop back down to twice a week? If so when? every 3rd day?


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so this is what I need? - 03-10-2005, 09:09 PM

60/ml of

Liquid Clo
Clomiphene Citrate
50mg/ml

and

30/ml of

Liquid Nolva
Tamoxifin Citrate
30mg/ml

If this is right I will order now......... thx smikey
   
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I am using Ara-test 2500 . It is 50mg propionate , 200mg Enantate, and 1 ml Vahiculo . And I have been injecting every other day rotating sites now. I Actually wasn't at first. The guy I got my gear from basically said I could use up to every other day and thats all the info I got. He showed me where to hit in my glute and thats it. So naturally I assumed that's all there was to it. HE obviosly just wanted to get rid of some gear for some quick cash. I am really pissed!! I don't know what I would have done if gyno started. Hell I wouldn't have even known the symtoms. I am very grateful you guys are here and so generous with your knowledge. By the way. what is "Vahiculo" ?

And should I drop back down to twice a week? If so when? every 3rd day?


thanks again

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Sunday and Wednesday or Monday and Thursday. You pick. Have you made any gains in strength or weight yet?

"HE obviosly just wanted to get rid of some gear for some quick cash."

Not necesarilly. Even among your gym pushers, ignorance runs rampant some times. Some of them really just don't know.


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Is there any appreciable difference between liquid and tablet versions of the ancillaries?


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Is there any appreciable difference between liquid and tablet versions of the ancillaries?
No, the liquid versions are sold as research products. There is currently a loophole that allows them to be sold that way. No one can predict how long the loophole will exist. The active ingredient is the actual product.


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