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"Quality" Cycle - 10-22-2013, 10:20 PM

Ok guys, I've got a very good handle on what works for me but I want to try something a little different...
As most of you know I'm recovering from an ACL tear and have been out of commission on leg training since May. So my main goal since then has simply been to maintain my size and not get fat.

I started a little mini diet(8 weeks)about six weeks ago to see how lean I could get without going crazy. I've gone from 258 down to 235 and I've added some carbs back in and I'm sitting around 238 dry weight right now. Around 12 percent I'd say. My abs are visible, but I have some lower back fat too.

I'm back to training legs now, and in fact my left leg is only lagging by 2cm both at the lower quad and in the middle. It's still not quite firing right so strength is way down, but it is coming back.

So I really want to bring top condition and do my State Championship in April next year. I'm not trying to add much if any size between then and now.
I'm running a lowish dose test and npp at the moment probably up until late Nov. I'm going to cruise at that point until Jan.

THEN I want to do about a 14 week prep, get lean, grainy, and vascular. So this is going to be all about diet for the most part. The trick is I'm going to do this on WAY less drugs than in the past. I think my diet, cardio, and training are going to be the ticket. Especially since I will probably be a big light heavy, possibly smaller heavy.

So what I'm looking to do is a cycle that will add quality muscle, not quantity, slash keep muscle and improve the looks.
So here is what have to work with, and of course I can get different/more stuff if necessary but I think I'm good.
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Primo
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Winny
dbol
I think I only want to run 2 injectables... So test is definately one... But I won't do more than 250mg a week I think. Primo is the other one. I have literally never ran it before and I want to see what I can do with it. I don't have a ton though, 5 10ml bottles of 150mg/ml.

So here is what I'm thinking, and I'm open to suggestions please.
250mg sustanon every week
450mg primo every 5 days
dbol for first 4 weeks maybe?
finish with var and winny last 6 weeks. 90mg var, 60mg winny per day.
maybe add tren in at 100mg eod the last little bit too.

What do you think?
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Sorry to add compounds, but if it were me, test, tren, mast, and npp and drop the dball. Your transformation would be incredible!
   
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10-23-2013, 12:49 AM

Yeah I hear you. I'm doing npp now though and I want to get off 19 nors for a bit too. Hence the primo. Plus I just really want to try it
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I hear ya, I'd be itchin too!
   
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Sorry to add compounds, but if it were me, test, tren, mast, and npp and drop the dball. Your transformation would be incredible!
Just curious why drop the dbal? I love starting a cycle with it and I respect your opinion.
   
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10-23-2013, 03:08 AM

Id use a tbol no dbol.. just drier and not as bad on sides.
Looks great Tri T .. u will love primo.. e or a ? Thks ib
   
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10-23-2013, 03:33 AM

Primo is enanthate. Its some primo shit made with guaicol so it won't hurt.
I've never tried tbol, have a shit ton of dbol though... Yeah it will be a little wet at first but its only for a month... I'll probably only do 20mg
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"Quality" Cycle - 10-23-2013, 05:59 AM

I am in the middle of a test mast blast and loving the lean dry gains from the mast though I have kept the mast dose close to 700 ew to make these gains
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Tri, Have you ever used var and winny together before. It's a great combo. I'm gonna give it a go in Feb. Looks like a solid plan though.
   
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Nope. Tren and Winny was pretty awesome. Never mixed orals though before.


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Ironbuilt was spot on. Quality being the key word. I would rather see him run a ph like methylsten than dbol. Dbol is great, just not now. AdamAnt is running it now and loves it. Check it out at genxbodybuilding.com. Or as iron suggested, tbol. I have a feeling tri wants to look freaky and not just huge.


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That's a really low dose of primo.
If you want to try it buy more and do a min of 600mg a week
800-1000 preferably.
Primo is very mild so a low dose won't do much.
that's also saying the primo is real,its one if the most faked substances.
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Again, I side with IB. Use the tbol instead. Stay drier, and at the end, drop the oils two weeks out depending upon how dry you are. If you want to keep test in there go to prop.
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I'll just not use anything, at first. I'll stick to var and winny. I think test/primo to start, and when I stall add tren, and then hammer the orals at the end...


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Hey Tri...
Looks good.
Personally, I like Test/Masteron which I think would be nice with Primo.
Test-250mg wk
Mast-600-800mg wk
Primo-600-800mg wk
(all Enanthate Esters)
Maybe some Anavar for first part and Winny at the end.

Test and Mast work great FOR ME...this is why I suggest this.
But as we know...everyones diff and you know what works for you.

Regardless what you choose...
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Hey Tri...
Looks good.
Personally, I like Test/Masteron which I think would be nice with Primo.
Test-250mg wk
Mast-600-800mg wk
Primo-600-800mg wk
(all Enanthate Esters)
Maybe some Anavar for first part and Winny at the end.

Test and Mast work great FOR ME...this is why I suggest this.
But as we know...everyones diff and you know what works for you.

Regardless what you choose...
Good luck wit it and keep us posted.
Do you really think I need that much masteron? Especially with that low of test dose? I kinda like the idea of starting with var and then winny at the end...


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Ooh also, I'm thinking of doing the primo all in one weekly shot. I read recently that was the best way to take it. Thoughts on that?


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Luke is the masteron master! Can't fault him though! Love mast. But, I'd start lower and see how you do with it personally.
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Ooh also, I'm thinking of doing the primo all in one weekly shot. I read recently that was the best way to take it. Thoughts on that?
450mg in one pin? Tri I've never heard that but I ran a good 4 months of 600 week and now off completely and best kept solid gains ever for this young buck.. I did 200 x 3 a week..

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Do you really think I need that much masteron? Especially with that low of test dose? I kinda like the idea of starting with var and then winny at the end...
Haha. Of course you don't NEED that much....but I like Mast higher dosed.
400mg week is a good dose. If prop...50-100mg eod.
Now...the Primo is enanthate....so it wouldn't be any different than Test Enan(ester action). A steady/level blood concentration is what we're after....
Sooo I don't think once week would be best (imo). Probably the usual twice a week or e3d would be better than once weekly.

And GRIM...
I just ordered a couple more jugs of Mast and a few Proviron tabs.
Oh...yea....and couple jugs of Test too. Lol
All I Need now is some Cialis....some lotion...and some adult content...lol
I MEAN......Cialis and my chick....yea...that.

I B.... Proviron..... CHECK!!
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