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Tren insomnia - 06-21-2014, 01:40 PM

Ok I know it's a very common side effect that most everyone gets at some point or another. What I want to know is why it happens. No matter when I pin my dose I still can't sleep in the wee hrs of the morning then come 7 or 8 am I'm ready to pass out but I have to go to work and hopefully grab a nap during the day. Anyone know what makes tren do u like that?
   
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I dont know the science behind it and nothing works for me either, not having carbs at night, taking the dose at night, gh,melatonon nothing even at 100mg a week!
I hate it for that reason and only see a need for it for cutting/precontest, Im up anyway from other stims and its the best at holding muscle in a caloric defecit. Short bursts for me is all I need. There are other alternatives for a bulking phase where I can sleep
If you cant sleep you cant grow!
I do know my goes metabo is up, as well as well as of course muscle and strength. I figure its so damm strong it just doesnt want your body to slow down!
   
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I love just about everything about it but I HATE that. It wars on my mind after about 4 weeks and I have take a break. I usually pass out at 10pm, wake up at 1130pm and am up til 3, go to sleep about 315, wake up about 4 and am usually up then. Once a cup of chamomile tea helped a lot but only once
   
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Just drop the compound, seriously man, forget Tren, I bet its completely unnecessary for your goals too.

Run high npp, GH, and anavar,
   
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tren does not work for everybody, you can try to reduce dosage
   
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I love that shit! Just ran it for 14 weeks.

Now I admit I get insomnia too but it's part of the "package". lol

I'm usually fine till I get up to about 70 mg's ED

Like Z28 and Blue said, it's not for everyone though.
   
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I've usually had insomnia when running Tren, but this run it has been much more mild than usual. In fact, the last 5-6 weeks I've barely noticed it at all, which is really odd because I've been running it at a much higher dose than ever before. But then again, almost all the Tren sides have been much more bearable than usual this time.

It's making me wonder if running at a high dose for a period of time might help one's body to adapt to it and lessen the occurrence and severity of the side effects. Purely speculation, though.

I do know that when the trensomnia hit me hard, 10mg of Ambien put me to sleep good.


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When I ran high tren low test 800 tren 200 test a week my insomnia was very tolerable...but when those dosages are reversed I cant sleep for shit just my 2 pennies it affects everyone differently
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When I ran high tren low test 800 tren 200 test a week my insomnia was very tolerable...but when those dosages are reversed I cant sleep for shit just my 2 pennies it affects everyone differently
Yes, I find it to be worse when test is higher.
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06-21-2014, 08:25 PM

Try 100 test a week with 400-600 Tren E (not A)

This will probably get rid of it, if it doesn't, well... Yeah the compound does that to most people.

Just get on npp/GH or something else
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I love tren myself I'm running a Tren/test/mast stack right now and sleep is very interesting. I was waking up 2 or 3 times a night drenched in sweat and having to piss (both of which smell lovely on tren) A wife's friend ran***ly bought Me a "marleys mellow mood" tea...it's at 711 and most liquor stores in San Diego area. I drink one of those before bed and the dreams are still gnarly but no waking up through the night.....might give that a try works for me.
   
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I notice when going lower with test I get no size from the cycle at all. With test higher the tren seems to shine more and Im pretty lean to see any water differences from higher test. I get the sides either way.
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I notice when going lower with test I get no size from the cycle at all. With test higher the tren seems to shine more and Im pretty lean to see any water differences from higher test. I get the sides either way.
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I notice when going lower with test I get no size from the cycle at all. With test higher the tren seems to shine more and Im pretty lean to see any water differences from higher test. I get the sides either way.
Everyone different though


that's because test puts on a lot of water weight, and fills you out more, thus you look bigger. also, it is good at putting on size. i feel like people across forums really believe that 600tren>600deca for size gains, and i have never seen the scientific or anecdotal basis for that....tren is an incredible compound for many reasons, but other compounds are better for putting on size MG for MG, and I would never call tren a pure bulking compound;it's very effective for heavy bulks in a mixture with other highly anabolic drugs(example: tren+deca,tren+deca+dbol,tren+deca+drol,tren+test+ dbol,etc,etc,etc....), but I would bet that *MOST* people would get better muscle gains[not just water/fat/etc] off 1K test+600deca than 1K test+600tren...there's always exceptions

what you said makes a lot of sense -- in fact, I would be surprised if higher test+tren did NOT give you more size than lower test+tren.
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GABA puts me sound asleep.
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GABA puts me sound asleep.
I like GABA. Good stuff.

On a side note, has anyone run Parabolan? The UGL's that are producing it swears there's less sides.

Not sure how that's possible since it's just a different ester.
   
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Ok I know it's a very common side effect that most everyone gets at some point or another. What I want to know is why it happens. No matter when I pin my dose I still can't sleep in the wee hrs of the morning then come 7 or 8 am I'm ready to pass out but I have to go to work and hopefully grab a nap during the day. Anyone know what makes tren do u like that?
Possible over stimulation of the CNS?
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Perfect read since its 3 am and I'm suffering from it at well but its hard to complain with all the positive results I'm getting
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I've run it at very high dosages and while the sleep disturbances were no worse than at less, I leaned out so much that it started to make me stringy. I'm not that in love with tren as many are although I reap the benefits of it. I'm off tren completely and leaner than when I was on it a short while ago. Diet is key.
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Seems like tren just puts my body in "hi-gear". It works great but I hate those sleepless nights and night sweats. Tren sweats in the winter are the worse. Nothing like waking up on a cold January night with cold wet sheets. I used to keep a couple sweat shirts handy and change in the middle of the night on winter nights. A Benedryl or two worked pretty well for sleep, but then sometimes I felt slow in the mornings
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