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Would appreciate everyone's perspective please - 11-01-2014, 04:28 PM

Alright gentlemen, Iím looking to you to help me shape the details of my next cycle and welcome any feedback that you are willing to provide. Here are my current stats:

Age: later 30ís
Height: 6í
Weight: 225
BF: 18%

Goals: Right or wrong, Iím not looking to get to an exact certain weight. Iíd like to put on the mass and gradually get to about 12-14% BF in the process. Once I attain that BF goal, I will re-adjust and set a new goal to get it lower. As far as how much mass, Iíll be making that determination by how I look, what my frame can hold fairly comfortably, any sides, etc.

Been on TRT (Cyp) for about 2 months now at a measly 120 mg/wk. I recently increased the Cyp a couple weeks ago and added 500 mg per week, for a total of 620 mg weekly. That said, I am now looking bring in the right additions moving forward to keep packing on the mass and strength and would appreciate any thoughts.

I train 4 days a week, and train the body parts hard, once a week. Also started doing Tabata protocol cardio, and will be doing that at least 4 times per week. Also, diet is on point to the degree of about 90% I would say, with 100% being absolutely perfect.

Whatís in my stash: I currently have a bunch of Test Cyp, Bold Cyp 300 mg, Test 400 (200 mg Enan/200 mg Cyp), Tri-Tren (100 mg Tren Ace/50 mg Tren Enan/50 mg Tren Hex), and full Tren Hex 200 mg. Clearly Iíve been stocking up, but will get whatever I need if the feedback here justifies it.

Alright gentlemen, I donít think I left anything out, but if there is anything else you need to know to provide me with a better response, please let me know. Looking forward to the onslaught of knowledge that I hope will come my way. Thanks in advance!
   
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11-01-2014, 05:22 PM

Week1-18

750 Test
600 EQ

Get your basic lab panels done q30 days, and donate blood every q56 days
You should get more than enough out of this if your diet,training,and recovery are in line
PS, increase your training frequency to train a bodypart somewhere between every 4-6 days, but not every 8th day

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Should I start out with 300 mg/wk EQ or just start with the full 600 mg in your opinion? Thanks.
   
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Also, I had someone suggest adding some Drol into the mix. Got any thoughts/opinions on that? Thanks again.
   
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I see no real need to add drol or any oral with short ester tren in a cycle. Drol has it's uses, but is often suggested by scale junkies who love to tell people their weight went up 15lbs in three weeks.

Unless you are in a mad rush or want to kick start some slow esters, I would shy away from orals.

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I see no real need to add drol or any oral with short ester tren in a cycle. Drol has it's uses, but is often suggested by scale junkies who love to tell people their weight went up 15lbs in three weeks.

Unless you are in a mad rush or want to kick start some slow esters, I would shy away from orals.

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Yeah, I don't care about gaining the weight super quickly or sharing it with anyone, but I am interested in the strength that Drol can provide. Also, sorry if there was any miscommunication on my end, but it's not certain that I will be using the Tren at all just yet. I just happen to have a bunch to use whenever. I'm giving everyone the opportunity to essentially help me build my cycle from nothing but a Test base. Thanks.
   
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Ok, I suspect any gains in strength that are specific to anadrol over others would be leverage from water gain. If strength is important look into anavar which works in a way similar to CM increasing real power output.
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11-01-2014, 07:16 PM

600mg EQ. Don't bother with 300.

Stay away from orals and tren all together imo
   
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600mg EQ. Don't bother with 300.

Stay away from orals and tren all together imo
I'm curious as to your reasoning for saying to stay away from orals and tren. Thanks.
   
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11-01-2014, 08:04 PM

Your goals do not include any of the following:
1) Becoming Mr.Olympia
2) Being top 10 on the Mr.O stage
3) Becoming an IFBB Bodybuilder pro
4) Become a champion or world-record breaking powerlifter

No reason to jeopardize your health.
It's not like your goals are not unattainable without tren or orals anyways.
   
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