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Opinions on first injectable cycle - 11-11-2014, 01:45 AM

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24 years old
5'10" 171lbs
very little body fat
Lifting for around 3 years
One pro hormone cycle
One Oral cycle of Liquid Dbol witha little var

What is on hand is -
Oral Liquid dbol 60ml bottle each 1ml contains 30mg
Oral tabs of anavar 10mg tabs (180 total)
Injectable sustanon350 10ml each ml contains- prop, phenyl, iso, deca
Injectable Test enanthate300 10ml each ml contains 300mg
Injectable Test undecanoate300 10ml each ml contains 300mg

Bulking cycle looking to put on lean muscle mass...

What I was thinking- ( wasn't planning on use the var this cycle)

Dbol-
week 1-2 - 1ml each day
week 3 - 1.5ml each day
week 4 - 2ml each day
All injections every 3 days .5ml of each for a total of 1.5ml of the 3
Anything need to changed? added removed does up or down?

PCT-
i have 30ml of nolva and 30ml of clomid on hand
Clomid
week 1 - 100mg. week 2 - 75mg. week 3 and 4 50mg.
Nolva
week 1 - 40mg. week 2 - 30mg. week 3 and 4 20mg.
Anything need adjusted or added supplement and doses?

with this being a first pin cycle- any recommended supplements?
creatin bcca multi fish oil a good protein and a good diet? any thing to add to the mix?

Sorry for the long post i tend to over research and have OCD at times lol. I am over whelmed at the moment from all the info out on the web... Any help with setting this cycle up will be great! i have been reading a lot on here, lots of good info.
   
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11-11-2014, 02:11 AM

I'd go with test e at 500mgs wk, kick it off with the d-bol!
   
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11-11-2014, 02:12 AM

If thats all the gear u have access to then i would say ytou could use both the sust and test e so that way you can actually get a good legnth cycle
   
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11-11-2014, 06:56 AM

That's over a gram of test each week.

You're probably going to need an AI.
   
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11-11-2014, 10:06 AM

Thanks for the info guys, as for the ai is a simple over the counter supplement going to be enough ordo I need to look in to arimdex ? Ill do some readi ng on cycling that but you take that on cycle or during pct?
   
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11-11-2014, 10:14 AM

I like to keep things simple. I would pin the Sust 2x per week till I run out then the undecanoate 2x per week and then the enenthate 2x per week. Kick it off with the dboll. Don't over think it. 600 mg of test a week is a good amount and with the dboll you'll see very good gains.
   
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11-11-2014, 03:14 PM

Gotcha, 1 ml 2 xs a week until I run out then on to the next... might be a option. With the dbol only cycle I gained around 10-12 lbs once I was off I lost 3-4lbs. But I was stupid and did not do any pct.
   
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11-11-2014, 03:18 PM

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Gotcha, 1 ml 2 xs a week until I run out then on to the next... might be a option. With the dbol only cycle I gained around 10-12 lbs once I was off I lost 3-4lbs. But I was stupid and did not do any pct.
Its OK I never did pct. Now I know better.
   
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11-11-2014, 04:26 PM

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Its OK I never did pct. Now I know better.
Lol luckily it was a light first oral cycle so I had no weird sides from if but I'm sure it could have helped in keeping the gains better...
any other supplements you guys recommends on taking while on cycle?
   
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11-11-2014, 04:57 PM

Fish oil/omega-3, liv-52, vitamin c, daily multivitamin, folic acid. Garlic will help if you're prone to high bp
   
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11-11-2014, 07:56 PM

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Fish oil/omega-3, liv-52, vitamin c, daily multivitamin, folic acid. Garlic will help if you're prone to high bp

Good info, I'll fit these in on my next supplement purchase.
   
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11-11-2014, 10:05 PM

Id do 500mg/week of test kicked off with dbol at 30mg/ed for the first 4-6 weeks. I ran 500mg/wk of test for 15weeks for my first cycle and was really happy with the results...


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11-11-2014, 10:25 PM

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Good info, I'll fit these in on my next supplement purchase.
I still say start your first injectable cycle at 500-750 mg's of test only and if you have to 25-50mgs of dbol. Plain and simple
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11-12-2014, 01:11 AM

Good advise here. Most "supplements" are garbage. Fish oil and intra-workout creatine and bcaas are all you need. Get your diet down and don't do an otc ai. Get some adex or exemestane from a sponsor. Read all you can. There are some great threads here on beginners cycles.
   
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11-12-2014, 01:27 AM

500test

drop the rest
   
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11-12-2014, 09:32 PM

Big thanks for all the replys guys....

I tried to search the rules and couldn't seam to find if i am allowed to post the brand of the gear i have?

as of now all i have is what fallows
1 -10ml test enanthate300
1 -10ml sustanon350
1 - 10ml test undecanoate300
1 - 60ml dbol 30 liquid oral

another brand i have
2 - 10ml test300
2- 10ml deca

I understand what you guys are saying with keeping it simple with keeping it simple.....

just running test for the first cycle so ill probably go with that. Just the test e at 500mg per week one time? Or would it be better at 250mg 2 x a week being a little more spread out?

Since i already have the gear listed above could that be used at a later date? just dont wanna waste it lol!
   
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11-15-2014, 08:08 AM

Mobile, split your dosage into as many injects per week as you can tolerate.
That's my opinion anyway
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11-15-2014, 01:43 PM

agreed. 3x a week would be more stable than 2x, but 2x is fine for most people
   
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11-19-2014, 03:55 PM

Too much test, too many injection per week.
I think 500 mg of sus or test e per week is more than better, specially if you take dbol 30 mg daily.
Take an AI.
You could take dbol at the beginning of the cycle (w 1-3) with bulking diet and var at the end of the cycle (w 9-12) with cutting diet. In theese cases, take a liver protector
   
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