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Very long oral cycle - 11-08-2015, 08:48 PM

I am planning on doing a very long oral cycle and was told by some not to do orals over 4 weeks then i heard from others up to 12 weeks.. I am planning on doing:
Test e 250mg wk .. Wk 1-20
Anavar 50mg ed.. Wk 1-14
Winstrol 50mg ed.. Wk 14-20
liv52-4 caps daily throughout whole cycle
Now my question would be can i safely run 20 weeks of orals with the liv52 , both anavar and winstrol are both very mild so please let me know if i am just pushing it too far
   
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Instead of doing the 20 weeks i could just do the winstrol from wk 7-14 with the anavar so that way it would only be a 14 wk cycle.... Does that sound better
   
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11-09-2015, 12:03 AM

What are you trying to accomplish with this cycle. I'd rather see you bump the test and either eliminate or front/endload your orals. I don't care what anyone says, running orals for extended periods is a bad idea. People are always concerned about their liver, but orals can be horrible for your hdl as well
   
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11-09-2015, 12:14 AM

Your cholesterol will be a mess.
This would be a bit smarter and likely help you achieve more.
Do 500 a week for 12 weeks of test.
60-80 mg ed of var weeks 1-4
50 mg ed of win weeks 9-12
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Trying to get lean muscle and lower bf into single digits
   
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Have you cycled before and used all those compounds before
   
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This will be my 9th cycle and i have used test and winstrol a few times but this will be my first time with anavar
   
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Trying to get lean muscle and lower bf into single digits
What is your bodyfat right now approx.?


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13% had it checked a week ago
   
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Change your diet and do some cardio. You don't need all that shit to lose body fat.
   
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I do cardio 5 days a week and am on the keto diet( calorie deficit) but i just cant seem to lose the small amount of fat under the belly button.. No matter how much cardio i do it wont go away
   
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You may be overdoing cardio or trying to out-train your diet. HIIT cardio after resistance training has been shown to burn 4x more fat than traditional cardio. On lifting days do 2- 4 minute sessions Tabata style. Use a Bulgarian bag, kettle bells, heavy bag, or anything you can do very intensely for about 20 seconds. It can even be very light weights, but remember it is quite ballistic. On off days, just walk for 45 to 60 minutes.
   
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I do cardio 5 days a week and am on the keto diet( calorie deficit) but i just cant seem to lose the small amount of fat under the belly button.. No matter how much cardio i do it wont go away
But still those orals won't get rid of that belly fat. You can lose it on 250mgs of test a week just to preserve muscle. If you're that desperate maybe try the ONLY actually fat burner there is......dnp.
   
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I was planning on doing the dnp because i have seen a few friends use it and it worked good.. I am just waiting for it to be a little colder outside before i try it.. Im in louisiana and it dont start getting cold until mid december, since my job is outside 6 days a week i think it would help better than the 70 degrees it is right now
   
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And plus i have no clue where to even find legit dnp, ive looked and found a few places that sell it but are sketchy
   
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And plus i have no clue where to even find legit dnp, ive looked and found a few places that sell it but are sketchy
We have a great sponsor named DNP (hint, hint)
   
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To answer your original question you can run anything as long as you want to... Is it safe, only blood work could tell you that.
   
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Your diet is way off if your holding fat
When the diet is on point you get lean every were - if diet is on you would never ever need so much cardio
You ever try to play with water ti see were you really are
Some people hold water in the crazeyest places also or Mabie you are not training right at all and need to reach think every thing all together and start from the beginning
   
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20 weeks is too long for me, normally i can only last 8 to 12 weeks, but it depends on your weight and physiclal status
   
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08-07-2016, 10:48 PM

I never do such a long time cycle I think 9-12wks is ok and keep your diets and train reugularly
   
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