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pROBLEM WITH ELBOW AND HANDS FALLING ASLEEP - 08-18-2005, 04:19 PM

Has this ever happened to anyone. This isnt just a tingle, this damn hurts. My elbow is killin me and my hand stays asleep. Im running test e at 700mg's, gh at 5iu's a day, and 100mcg's of igf.
   
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08-18-2005, 04:29 PM

When you say a tingle do you mean pins and needles?

If yea its from your high blood pressure from the Test E
   
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08-18-2005, 06:51 PM

It feels like a tingle sometimes but other then that it just hurts and feels tight(my joints). My blood pressure is great, just had it checked last week.
   
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its probably the 5iu's of gh and the 100mcg of igf. watch out for carpal tunnel syndrome
   
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08-18-2005, 07:10 PM

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its probably the 5iu's of gh and the 100mcg of igf. watch out for carpal tunnel syndrome
Yes, that is a common effect of GH. Not so much the pain, but definately the tingling and the feeling of your hands going to sleep.

The pain in your elbow is probably brought on by the muscles getting stronger, faster than the tendons. Large jumps in weight in a short period of time can cause this.


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08-18-2005, 07:52 PM

its def. the gh bro. you might to go down to 4iu for a few days, if that doesn't help, lower the dose to 3iu and so on and so forth until it goes away. and 100mcg's of igf is a lot! try lowering that as well.
   
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08-18-2005, 07:57 PM

Well let me ask you this speaking of the 100mcg's of igf? I use a 1cc slin needle. Now it has marks as such: 10 / 20 / 30 /40 etc. The reading at the bottom (when it gets to the 100) is 10 units. So I have been pulling enough igf (muscle research) to get it to the 10 mark. So is this indeed 100mcg's?
   
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things to understand when doing igf & gh together:
the gh will be enhanced at least 2fold by the igf so your side affects will be greatly increased.
100mcg is a very high initial dosage if you have never run it before.
5iu of gh will cause those kinds of symptoms on their own.
i also ran the exact same dosages in my last cycle but i have run gh & igf prior to that on their own. i also experienced the same symptoms as you and let me tell you there is nothin worse than gettin up off the shitter after taking a good long healthy one and finding out your legs & glutes have fallen asleep so as soon as you go to get up you fall down onto the bathroom floor. this was even before i had gotten a chance to wipe the ole hairy ass also
other than the damn tingling, numb arms, etc. is was a great cycle and i really felt & looked bigger & leaner during the cycle.
   
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Another possibility.... - 08-19-2005, 11:25 AM

naase2004,

Another possibility is that you are developing "thoracic outlet syndrome".

It sometimes affects weightlifters and bodybuilders, and is caused by strength imbalances of the muscles that join the shoulder(s).

The muscle imbalances can cause the pecs to pull the shoulders forward, thereby compressing the vessels and nerves entering the arm through the shoulder. The blockage can cause hand/arm swelling if the outgoing blood flow is blocked, or hand/arm shrinkage if the incoming blood flow is blocked. If the nerves are compressed, severe pain will be noticed in the hand, forearm, and elbow. The arm may also fall asleep, especially at night.

If this is what you have, and you just discovered it, then it can be resolved rather quickly. An orthodpedic MD would be the specialist of choice.

A quick test that you may want to do is to stand in a doorway, with your elbows out (at shoulder level) and your hands up (above head level). Place your hands and elbows flat against the sides of door opening. Lean into the opening, thereby deeply stretching your pec and inside shoulder muscles. Hold it for 10-15 seconds. Do this several times. After the stretches, if this causes the pain and joint tightness to temporarily subside somewhat, then you may have "thoracic outlet syndrome".

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Well let me ask you this speaking of the 100mcg's of igf? I use a 1cc slin needle. Now it has marks as such: 10 / 20 / 30 /40 etc. The reading at the bottom (when it gets to the 100) is 10 units. So I have been pulling enough igf (muscle research) to get it to the 10 mark. So is this indeed 100mcg's?
So how does the dosing and measurement sound? Is it right?


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So how does the dosing and measurement sound? Is it right?
yes your measurement info is correct.
have you ever run either product before?
   
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things to understand when doing igf & gh together:
the gh will be enhanced at least 2fold by the igf so your side affects will be greatly increased.
100mcg is a very high initial dosage if you have never run it before.
5iu of gh will cause those kinds of symptoms on their own.
i also ran the exact same dosages in my last cycle but i have run gh & igf prior to that on their own. i also experienced the same symptoms as you and let me tell you there is nothin worse than gettin up off the shitter after taking a good long healthy one and finding out your legs & glutes have fallen asleep so as soon as you go to get up you fall down onto the bathroom floor. this was even before i had gotten a chance to wipe the ole hairy ass also
other than the damn tingling, numb arms, etc. is was a great cycle and i really felt & looked bigger & leaner during the cycle.
your drug info :yesway:

your hairy ass info :noway:
   
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08-19-2005, 05:34 PM

I have ran gh during the last 2 runs. The igf I started with 40 and worked up to 100 over a 3 week period.


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I have ran gh during the last 2 runs. The igf I started with 40 and worked up to 100 over a 3 week period.
with the igf dont run it for more than about 4 weeks at a time. take just as long off of it before you go back on it. it has been shown to become very ineffective after about this timeframe even if you keep upping the dosage. the receptors for it get very saturated and downgraded untill you give then at least an equal amount of time off.
   
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