steroid choice

ok, fisrt off what are your stats? height, age.

have only been lifting for 4 to 5 months?

If you have only been lifting for about 4 to 5 months i would wait till you had at least a year or more to give aas a try. see at this point your body is not used to it being worked out like this. so shocking your muscles into growth will relativly easy at this point.

Maintain a good healthy diet, up your protein intake as well as carbs. try to put on mass first, by eating big.

i did a deca and eq cycle for my first. i got some pretty good gains from it too.

i would go with 400mg deca/wk and 600mg eq/wk. that should give some good gains for a first timer. also have a good diet, and get plenty of rest.

hi,

when you said "400mg deca/wk and 600mg eq/wk. that should give some good gains for a first timer". I'm not quite sure how good... can you explain it? ie if my chest is 45inch.. how big will I get?

<!--QuoteBegin-armani1072+Dec 29 2003, 11:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (armani1072 @ Dec 29 2003, 11:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i did a deca and eq cycle for my first. i got some pretty good gains from it too.

i would go with 400mg deca/wk and 600mg eq/wk. that should give some good gains for a first timer. also have a good diet, and get plenty of rest. [/b][/quote]
I disagree with this cycle. No need to do deca and eq together first of all imo, and deca without test is not a good idea either imo. I don't think you're ready yet either but if you must then start off with a basic test cycle at 500mg a wk. If you want to you can run some deca or eq along with it....deca at 300-400mg or eq at 400-500mg. Personally I think test enan or cyp at 500mg a wk and dbol to start would be best.

wks 1-10 test enan 500mg
wks 1-4 dbol 35mg ed
wk 12 start pct Nolvadex 40mg for 2 wks then 20mg for 2 wks

P.S. Keni, I don't know what your friends meant about test not being good but sustanon is test.

i would do just as jsjs24 said test and dbol cant go wrong there, deca is to hard for a first cycle it will shut you down very hard bro

IMO if you have only worked out for 4-5 months I wouldn't do a cycle yet. If your diet and training are good, you should be able to make good gains for several years without them. Read workinhard's weight gain 101 thread and start from there. Read as much info as you can in the mean time.

Jack, what do you mean when you say it will 'shut you down hard'? [referring to deca]

<!--QuoteBegin-tweak+Dec 30 2003, 01:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tweak @ Dec 30 2003, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Jack, what do you mean when you say it will 'shut you down hard'? [referring to deca] [/b][/quote]
you have a pm

thanks for the help bro

anytime

Didn't Jack answer your question about deca? Basically it's where your dick won't stay hard while performing. We call it deca dick, and there is fina dick too. Sustanon needs to be done for 10-12 wks, 4 wks isn't near enough. You need to have some Nolvadex on hand, there are a lot of liquid products for sale on the net but I don't know if they ship overseas or not. I already mentioned what I think is a good cycle...that's exactly what I'd do . You can use sust f you want but I think it's an overrated product. It will give you good gains but the mixture makes no damn sense to me whatsoever. It has prop in it but not enough. Prop needs to be done at least every 3rd day. If you must use sust though then just do 500mg taken 250 on mon and 250 on thurs. And Australia should not be that hard to get gear...they make some of the best stuff. See if you can get a hold of one of those bladders of enanthate.