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Help! Winstrol 50mg and 100mg disaster.

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nuclear2@12

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Ok so tried to make 100mg/ml winstrol with this recipe:

100mg/ml. 10ml
Ba 0.2ml 1.2%
Ba 2ml 20%
Guaiacol 1.5ml 15%
100% Eo carrier 5.5ml

Didn't disolve even in the water/pan bath.

Upped guaiacol to 20% addin 0.5ml making it 10.5ml total volume,

Still didn't disolve,

So decided to switch it to 50mg/ml at 20ml.

So added another.
3ml eo
And 7.5ml gso

Making it 50-50eo/gso.

Still didn't disolve, was a milky mess and the raw just settled at the bottom if left,

Heated it up till the water was boiling, tried to filter, and about 7-8ml filtered fine, then filter clogged, tried another syringe and filter and still wudnt filter even after keeping the mix hot.

Why didn't the 1g raw winstrol disolve with all this solvent?
 
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nuclear2@12

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So I havnt a clue how much win is in this vial, its clear, but going to bin,

I normally wudnt filter unless its clear 1st but with:
100% eo carrier
20% guaicaol
20%bb

why didn't it dissolve?

Also solvents etc are from medical lab and supplies so I know there good to go.
 
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hijacked said:
Winny takes A LOT of heat. You cant get it hot enough in a pan of boiling water. What temp did you bring it to?

There's probably very little winny in your vial, if any.
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Yeh that's what I'm thinking iv already chuckd it out, so would you sugest melting in the oven then adding gluaiacol etc.

If the solvents won't melt it then how will they keep it liquid form?
 
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hijacked said:
You need to melt over open flame. Basskiller has step by step instructions, with pictures. Also, winny will not stay in solution. Its a suspension only. You will get it into solution long enough for filtering, thats it.
To put it simply, winny is a pain in the ass. Why dont you make an oral suspension?
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Yeh I seen he used an open flame, I thought he was just being old fashioned. Yeh think I will make it oral then if its a fuk on, what about dbol and oxy's they ok doing it as above or do they need a flame also?

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hijacked said:
Dbol is a pc of cake. Goes into solution no problem. Drol will go into solution too, but 50mg/ml is max. Drol also requires more guai than dbol does.
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Thanks dude my idea for dbol was:

50mg/ml
Ba 2%
Bb 20
Guaic 15%
Eo/gso 50/50

Oxy was going to try:

100mg/ml
Ba 2%
Bb 20%
Guaic 15-20%
100% Eo carrier

???

How does it compare to your recipe? I'm just wanting it in solution so I don't waste any then can tweak it from there??

Thanks for your help.

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hijacked said:
Also, if you attempt the winny again. Its really going to be a struggle to keep it in solution for filtering at 100mg. I would back it down to 50.
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Yeh I don't think I will bother with it as I want it to stay in solution and its not micronized so no good for suspension either?

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Stone u coulda drank the winny dummy. Never ever toss a 17alkahloid u screw ed up that is violation of the gear code # 321sehyt56.. Hijack and his extreme hea t is right .Now didnt we chat about u not doing this project due to probability of a failure? I'd make 50mg ml max. Do you have micronized raw ,flour like, or more of a grainy texture ? Post a pic if possible . Thanks ib
 
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little tip.. use a mortar / pestle to grind powders a little at a time. It's helped with some of my conversions
 
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nuclear2@12

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Its fine grains not flour, yeh I have a motar and pestle I can use that thanks for the idea,

Also need to invest in a butane blowtorch, seems the handheld ones reach around 2500F.

Also I will only be convertion 1g at a time.

50mg was my plan but though it try 100mg/ml 1st because you can always add in extra liquids to make it 50mg/ml but neither worked, so will defo go with just 50mg/ml and heat.

I'm thinking tho, if its suspension then why do you need guaiacol and eo because if it won't disolve then there usless in the recipe right? Or do they help it stay in suspension and from clumping up?

What recipe have yous make 50mg win with?


And I wasn't sure if it was good to drink guaiacol+eo winstrol?

Thanks.
 
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nuclear2@12

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You got it backwards. You cant make drol at 100mg
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Are you sure? I'm sure iv seen recipes on this site for 100mg/ml inj oxy's?

Iv just made tren no ester, what a b*stard was, the recipe I was given didn't work, its holding great but with 35% guaiacol for 50mg/ml.

Eo/gso is defo no good as a carrier for tren no ester.

Iv probably had to over compensate with more guaiacol for the gso I added, but will defo use 100% eo carrier for that from now on.

Will this work for 100mg oxy? Just with oxy's dose range being higher, but if you say its no good and stick to 50mg/ml then all take your word dude :)
 
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nuclear2@12

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Yeh I'd prefer not to use that much but that's what I needed, and its been on my cold window sill for a day, thinking of putting it in the fridge over night?

Why do you think some aas hold for a week or 2 then crash? It can't be a temperature thing or it wud crash as soon as it cooled?
 
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nuclear2@12

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Is it possible to make a tren suspension instead of solution? Because if this don't hold I think I will abandon it because I'm not adding more guaiacol, just seems ott for abit tren when tren ac is just as good,

But if it can be made into a suspension it will be great? Its big grains tho, I'm starting to thin tren base is going to be more of a hassle if this solution I have doesn't hold.
 
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nuclear2@12

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With tren base and the level of guaiacol and eo this wud make the bb pritty useless wouldn't it?

Would it not be better to replace the bb for eo aswell and say up the ba to 5% I'm using 2% atm.

Same with test base, would it be better to remove the bb? I have this recipe for test base.

Test base 100mg/ml 100ml

Ba 3%
Bb 20%
Guaicaol 10%
Eo carrier

But I'm only wanting a 50mg/ml for now, was going to use this recipe anyway.

The guy said its pip free,... Lol.
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