newbie cycle

[browens]

this will be my 4th cycle and wanted some feed back, i dont want to do test as of yet. i was planning on 400mg/deca, for ten weeks and 300mg/eq for 10 weeks . i know this is not a traditional cycle. i'm 24 5'10" 185lbs lean . i've been getting great results from lose doses of mild gear. any input is appr.

[Nitrateman]

Humour me, please. 4th cycle and don't want to do test yet! Is this caution or fear or what? Please explain cause I think you will get a fair bit of feedback on this.

Nitrateman

[browens]

i am being very careful, i am just getting such good results from milder gear that i was going to wait to do test or any of the harsher gear

[mandarb11]

So this is your 4th cycle at 5'10'' and you only weigh 185lbs? What was your weight before taking steroids and what kind of gains/losses have you made on cycles missing the Test? Also what were your other cycles and their length of time? The reason for the questions is that most people if training and eating correctly will put on a tonne of size with their very first cycle and you have been on 4! Also why the aversoin to test, the Deca alone will mess with your natural test levels anyways, sometimes culminating in the dreaded "Deca Dick". What dosages are you panning to use? Both Deca and Equipose are very slow gainers overall that require lengthy cycles in order to make any significant gains and from my experience the gains are disappointing in the least. Anyways more info is needed in order to assist you with further info, running without test makes no sense as any steroid will mess with natural test levels and all have their own side effects to deal with!

[browens]

i started at 165lbs and my first clcle was (if you want to call it a clycle) was 200mg/eq for 6weeks. i heard great things about tren so, the second was tren/eq for 6 weeks (didnt like tren very much) the third was 8weeks of eq at 300mg. i figured i put on 20lbs of solid muscle in a matter of months why mess with it ride out these mild products until my body gets used to it.

[Strongman]

Browens,

I think you are short changing yourself...By low dosing it you are essentially causing your natural test to shut down and then replacing it with pretty much enough to barely make it.

Here's my thoughts.

1) Add some test...You can easily run 500mg/week and have very minimal sides.
2) Choose either deca or EQ. I would say Deca only because I'm sure you would like to pack on mass, but you can choose EQ for a lean gainer.
3) You need at least 10 weeks to get substantial qualitative keepable gains. Possibly 14 weeks if choosing EQ.

This cycle alone is very mild and any sides from Test can be easily countered/dealt with.

By running very low dosages you are really putting your body through un-needed stress. In that case I would just change my diet/training and go from there.

[browens]

is it ok to run propecia during the cycle to counter any effects on the hair line. Mr. clean is pretty much every male in my family

[Gettinhuge_pump]

I wouldnt suggest a cycle with no test except in certain situations. Yours isnt one of them. Bite the bullet take some damn test with the deca or eq...choose one by the way...pop some dbols work hard and get fuckin huge! If you are in your 4th cycle and only weight 185 your not doing something right. Good luck and go order some damn test lol.

[swollen]

i have only did 1 10 week cycle of deca at 200mg/week and went from 187lbs to 206lbs. and i wasnt able to do anymore and went through some tough times and didnt eat good and work outs were not great and lost all my gains. it has been about a year since that cycle, will it be easier to get my gains back if i tryed it again?

[Gettinhuge_pump]

generally you dont gain as much as you did on your 1st cycle. you should definately add test tho because you will see GREAT gains off of some strait up testosterone!!! good luck man.

[browens]

i took your advise and i am in to the second week now of test cyp. and deca. thanks for the replys

[swollen]

when you say test, exactly what kinda test are you talking about? what is the name of the test i should cycle?

[DecaDude]

I'm into week 4 of
450mg/wk DECA
500mg/wk TEST. CYP
50mg/EOD STANOZOLOL (Winstrol)

Why? Deca/Winny stack very well together. Winni helps with the progesterone created from the Deca.

Test. Cyp adds the agdrogenic properties of test but also help in bulking and screwing.

Works good for me and it's my first cycle... sometime you get bitchy, but people here understand....

This is my first cycle..

[MaSTa LifTa]

when you say test, exactly what kinda test are you talking about? what is the name of the test i should cycle?

Test enanthate or Test cypionate. Either one.

[a-bomb83]

Mr. clean is pretty much every male in my family

well expect to follow the trend. if your destined for hairloss NOTHING will stop it.

[cubuilder]

Looking for cycle information / where I can acquire etc. I have tried a ten week cycle of Test enanthate and STANOZOLOL (Winstrol). I saw pretty good results but my source dried up after that cycle. Any advice?

[Cryptasm]

Uhm, 1 Post so far and you expect someone to just e mail you and sell you something??? This is not a board to source drugs, its a discussion board..although there may be some companies that will do that for you, we dont supply any druggs on this board

[mandarb11]

Looking for cycle information / where I can acquire etc. I have tried a ten week cycle of Test enanthate and STANOZOLOL (Winstrol). I saw pretty good results but my source dried up after that cycle. Any advice?

Too funny! You always see this though. Anybody know where i can get some? Ya here is my address as well, so you can send the authorities!

[cubuilder]

I was looking for advice on the cycles not the drugs. I apologize if it came across that way. Thanks!

[Cryptasm]

Here ya go.. http://www.anasci.org/vB/showthread.php?
another: t=3343http://www.anasci.org/vB/showthread.php?t=8215
also look in steroid profiles...
Sorry about bangin ya for sourcing//ok