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Timing of carb load and using dyazide - 07-24-2017, 04:19 PM

Anyone have any suggestions on carb loading and how they use dyazide?

I've never used dyazide before, looking at giving it a run but would like some feedback on people's experiences first!

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07-24-2017, 05:39 PM

the 2 don't really go together in my opinion....

they totally different things....

dyazide is a tool to pull water....without water there is
no carb load....

if i were to use it....it would be 36 to 24 hours before my load
just for the water pull....

the thing is....how much water needs to be re-introduced for
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the 2 don't really go together in my opinion....

they totally different things....

dyazide is a tool to pull water....without water there is
no carb load....

if i were to use it....it would be 36 to 24 hours before my load
just for the water pull....

the thing is....how much water needs to be re-introduced for
your load...??
This is why I asked the question and this is why I'm happy to apart of such a knowledgeable board!

In all honesty, I'm not too sure on the answer to your question due to my lack of knowledge on dropping water and using diuretics..

So I'll be more direct... Tenny how would you go about dropping water to come into a show looking crisp and hard?

If you can't really go into depth due to this being a service you offer I understand!

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07-24-2017, 06:12 PM

well for one.....if your conditioned....you don't need a diuretic...

look at mytreefiddy pics....ZERO DIURETIC, just a 36 hour water drop...

and that's all diuretics are...tools to pull MORE water....most of the
time, water from places you DO NOT want to pull water from..

carb loading is too individual to answer....and must be tried and tested

a typical protocol is 3x your normal daily amount.

   
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well for one.....if your conditioned....you don't need a diuretic...

look at mytreefiddy pics....ZERO DIURETIC, just a 36 hour water drop...

and that's all diuretics are...tools to pull MORE water....most of the
time, water from places you DO NOT want to pull water from..

carb loading is too individual to answer....and must be tried and tested

a typical protocol is 3x your normal daily amount.

I've seen his pics and he looked incredible!

I'm not nearly as conditioned as I need or want to be... I decided to do the show on a whim and that was a mistake from the get go since that was at just under 7 weeks out...

It's now 2 weeks and 6 days away....

I hold alot of water/fat in my legs and those are always the last to come in for me along with lower chest and back...

I'm thinking of options if I don't look conditioned in time...

What do you feel is the better way to go?


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I've seen his pics and he looked incredible!

I'm not nearly as conditioned as I need or want to be... I decided to do the show on a whim and that was a mistake from the get go since that was at just under 7 weeks out...

It's now 2 weeks and 6 days away....

I hold alot of water/fat in my legs and those are always the last to come in for me along with lower chest and back...

I'm thinking of options if I don't look conditioned in time...

What do you feel is the better way to go?


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i would probably do a full on keto at that point....and i mean RIGHT NOW...

and cardio your ass off...

can you post a pic..????


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i would probably do a full on keto at that point....and i mean RIGHT NOW...

and cardio your ass off...

can you post a pic..????

Here's a quick few

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And the last one

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Yes.....you are behind...(in some spots)

your back is your best body part.....

if you are committed to the show, like i said..
straight KETO now....

you will be able to lean up a good amount in 2 weeks...

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Yes.....you are behind...(in some spots)

your back is your best body part.....

if you are committed to the show, like i said..
straight KETO now....

you will be able to lean up a good amount in 2 weeks...

Making and implementing the changes today.
Thank you for your help Tenny it is greatly appreciated!!!

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Yes.....you are behind...(in some spots)

your back is your best body part.....

if you are committed to the show, like i said..
straight KETO now....

you will be able to lean up a good amount in 2 weeks...

Tenny,

I've done some research and noticed people carb up on keto diets every 4 days or so...

With that being said, is this a necessity?

I assumed when you said straight keto now you meant throughout without this "carb up".

Just want to clarify thank you again!

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07-26-2017, 02:52 PM

you don't have the time for all that....

just get zero carbs now....

you will be flat, small, tired and angry the days before
the show....do not let this worry you....it must be done.

once you've drop the bf......you can begin eating some carbs
36 hours out...
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you don't have the time for all that....

just get zero carbs now....

you will be flat, small, tired and angry the days before
the show....do not let this worry you....it must be done.

once you've drop the bf......you can begin eating some carbs
36 hours out...
Awesome that was what I was thinking...

Do you suggest any water manipulation during the last 36 hours?

I've never gone low/no carb before, I'm not really sure how to go about that.

You can pm me if this is something that needs to be paid for...

Thanks again!

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Awesome that was what I was thinking...

Do you suggest any water manipulation during the last 36 hours?

I've never gone low/no carb before, I'm not really sure how to go about that.

You can pm me if this is something that needs to be paid for...

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LOL....just don't eat em.....pretty simple
and up the fats


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Haha I knew that much about the carbs and fats..

I was simply referring to not being sure how to go about the water manipulation if it ends up being needed

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well that's the part everyone is scared of.....

and should be....as it could fuck the whole thing up
really quick....or raise you to the top.....

without properly doing the mocks....I cant tell you anything...
you are really kinda in the dark with it....

it needs to be mastered individually.....

I would just suggest....
full keto for 2 weeks...
a simple water drop....24 hours out.
a simple carb load....nothing crazy.
and get on stage....depending on how you
felt prejing went....either say fuck it, and start eating and drinking..
or....if you think you have it.....no water and another simple carb load.

that's about all there is to do at the point you are currently at...
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well that's the part everyone is scared of.....

and should be....as it could fuck the whole thing up
really quick....or raise you to the top.....

without properly doing the mocks....I cant tell you anything...
you are really kinda in the dark with it....

it needs to be mastered individually.....

I would just suggest....
full keto for 2 weeks...
a simple water drop....24 hours out.
a simple carb load....nothing crazy.
and get on stage....depending on how you
felt prejing went....either say fuck it, and start eating and drinking..
or....if you think you have it.....no water and another simple carb load.

that's about all there is to do at the point you are currently at...
Thanks a million man!

Thats all I needed to know and next time I won't decide on a whim to do this...

I'll keep you updated on how it goes

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07-26-2017, 08:39 PM

In two weeks time your glucose processing will not down regulate that much (this is a good thing) so if you want to take the safest route do this.

A very small shitload. ....

If its a Saturday show then stay zero carbs and slightly increase water Thursday and another slight increase in water intake Friday. Keep water high until Friday night at around 10pm and then cut it off!!!! 1 hour later you go have some pancakes with syrup and maybe a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich (just avoid milk products like ice cream just to be safe). Give yourself a couple hours and maybe have a candy bar or slice of pie do or some dry kids cereal, you must eat all this with no fluids, to process all this shit to much needed glucose your body will pull water from the subcutaneous stores first, this action is your diuretic!! Wake up early in the morning and if you are still flat eat some pancakes but take small sips of water to wash it down (try and drink no more than 3 ounces of water.

You can thank the old school guys of professional muscle for this (zilla and wyldeone)
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In two weeks time your glucose processing will not down regulate that much (this is a good thing) so if you want to take the safest route do this.

A very small shitload. ....

If its a Saturday show then stay zero carbs and slightly increase water Thursday and another slight increase in water intake Friday. Keep water high until Friday night at around 10pm and then cut it off!!!! 1 hour later you go have some pancakes with syrup and maybe a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich (just avoid milk products like ice cream just to be safe). Give yourself a couple hours and maybe have a candy bar or slice of pie do or some dry kids cereal, you must eat all this with no fluids, to process all this shit to much needed glucose your body will pull water from the subcutaneous stores first, this action is your diuretic!! Wake up early in the morning and if you are still flat eat some pancakes but take small sips of water to wash it down (try and drink no more than 3 ounces of water.

You can thank the old school guys of professional muscle for this (zilla and wyldeone)
You guys are a wealth of knowledge and I greatly appreciate all of the excellent guidance!!!

I will follow this exactly as you explained.

Is there anything else I should keep an eye on??

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Error on the side of slightly flat rather than spilling over ( which will be hard to do as i outlined as long as water is controlled)
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