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Joints.... Collagen - 06-06-2013, 11:08 AM

Finally making some progress thank in Great part to IB and Jacked, and there EXTREMELY helpful advice!! Can't thank them and others enough...... Saving my life... LITERALLY

Question I have is: think I'm starting to feel effects of Long term TRT , and the effect of decreasing Collegen in joints from it

Any thoughts or suggestions??

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Been on TRT for about 9-10 months I'd say..... Don't have exact date in front of me
   
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I know a lot of people disagree with the use of deca for joints, but I have been using 50mg of deca a week along with my daily 20mg test dose and my joints are feeling very nice. I have been doing this since February and it is still working.
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Deca works but can creep up on a dead dick after a while then have a anti prolactin in hand if its going to be lifelong supplement ..ib
   
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Oh yea ive never had the deca sides until this last yr when i tried it again and lets jst say the wife wasnt too happy for about a month ....i dropf that shit fast lol.... Funny thing is that tren does the complete opposite though.... I have a few older friend(60's). And run about 100mg of deca a week and have been doing so for awhile now w a trt of test and no problems n loves how his joints feel but then again ea person is gonna react differently to the mixture or compound when actually on it in full
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I run deca alot always have to have caber around.
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Why not run primo with your trt to help your joints?
   
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Why not run primo with your trt to help your joints?

Could you elaborate more for me please..... I'd appreciate your input
   
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Could you elaborate more for me please..... I'd appreciate your input

Primo lubricates the joints just like deca and eq do.....but it does it to a much lesser extent. In one study (can't remember the mgs/week) deca and eq increased collage synthesis by 270% while primo increased it about 170%.

Of course, the downside is primo doesn't do as good of a job as deca. I also have read that deca acts as an antiinflammatory. Don't take my word on that though. I will need to research more.

The upside is primo is so mild on the lipids and the body that you may be able to run more milligrams per week "safely" with primo. Also primo doesn't give you the dreaded deca dick.

Eq is out of the equation entirely because of what it does to red blood cells. I will never run eq.


Primo can get the job done. My last cycle I ran 600mgs primo a week. I didn't feel anything from the primo anabolically but my knee felt the best its ever felt in years. I was even able to run on it for the first time in a decade.
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Actually, I was reading up on deca last night. The article was saying what these guys are in this thread. 100mg of deca a week is supposed to lubricate the joints and provide relief from joint pain. My last eq cycle really helped with my shoulder pain, which is virtually non existent now. Prior to that cycle, my shoulder joints were always hurting, especially after working them.
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Thank you fellas.... Very much!

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Actually, I was reading up on deca last night. The article was saying what these guys are in this thread. 100mg of deca a week is supposed to lubricate the joints and provide relief from joint pain. My last eq cycle really helped with my shoulder pain, which is virtually non existent now. Prior to that cycle, my shoulder joints were always hurting, especially after working them.

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I think I may try this when I inject this week.
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Any idea how much test they were running with the deca?
No, it didn't say, but it was talking about trt type doses. So, I would guess 100-200mg a week.

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Don't forget a great peptide called thyomasin beta 4 or aka TB 500. Do some research on this little peptide. Once you do the loading phase, go to 2mg every week and you're good. I've been on the stuff for prob a year. No issues. I would be careful running a maint dose of deca. There are chances cardio(something) can set in. Basically the walls and muscles of your heart get thicker and slow down blood flow.

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Don't forget a great peptide called thyomasin beta 4 or aka TB 500. Do some research on this little peptide. Once you do the loading phase, go to 2mg every week and you're good. I've been on the stuff for prob a year. No issues. I would be careful running a maint dose of deca. There are chances cardio(something) can set in. Basically the walls and muscles of your heart get thicker and slow down blood flow.

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I ran tb500 and felt nothing.

However I may have ran the loading phase wrong. I did a bottle a week for 4 weeks. What is your protocol Fordfan?
   
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I think when I loaded, it was 5 or 10mg per wk for 4 or 6 wks (been a long time ago). Now I take 2mg every week.
   
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I think when I loaded, it was 5 or 10mg per wk for 4 or 6 wks (been a long time ago). Now I take 2mg every week.

Yeah I loaded at 2mg a week. No wonder I felt nothing. Where did u get yours from? I used ergopep.com.

Also have u had bloodwork done? I heard it can raise red blood cell count.

Lastly, how bad is ur arthritis and pain before taking tb500? Can u squat heavy now etc?
   
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