AnaSCI - Fitness Evolved

Buy Needles and Syringes with NO PRESCRIPTION   Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products   Cheap Pure Supplements

ŠALL CONTENT OF THIS WEBSITE IS COPYRIGHTED AND CANNOT BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE ADMINISTRATORS CONSENT 2003-2017

  Synthetek Syntherol  
   
   


User CP FAQ Members List Calendar New Posts Quick Links Log Out

AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved


        
        
        
Automatic Translations (Powered by Yandex):
Albanian Belarusian Catalan Czech Danish Dutch English Estonian Finnish French German Greek Hungarian Italian Latvian Lithuanian Macedonian Norwegian Portuguese Russian Slovak Slovenian Spanish Swedish Turkish Ukrainian

Go Back   Anabolic Steroids Discussion and Bodybuilding Forum > Peptides & Growth Forum > Lab & Serum Tests

Like Tree5Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
AAS Donating Members - Expanding Tests
Old
  (#1)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
AAS Donating Members - Expanding Tests - 05-05-2017, 08:48 PM

I've been in discussion with Jano about expanding our testing to include bacteria and heavy metal testing. I'm not optimistic about what I'm hearing. The expanded testing will be more expensive and possibly time consuming. It looks like it is definitely possible, but I have some concerns. My responsibility is to protect the member's donations. I want to be sure that what YOU are paying for is accurate and that your money is going to be spent on what YOU want. If the majority of donors say that they are comfortable with what is currently being performed, we will continue this way. If the majority of members say that they would like to expand the testing to include contaminants, then I will find a way to make it happen. It may not be Jano, but I will do all I can to find a source to fulfill our needs. Please give me your input....I want to hear from all donors. If you donated to this project, I will guarantee you will not be flamed for stating your opinion. I will make it my business to intervene in your favor. THAT IS FOR ANY WHO DONATED. If you did not donate, comment at your own risk!




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#2)
AnaSCI VET / Donating Member
 
Sully's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 2,177
Join Date: Dec 2012
05-05-2017, 09:43 PM

As with any human endeavor, what one wants and what one is willing to pay for are 2 entirely different issues. I want a Ferrari. I'm willing to pay for a Ford. Many here may SAY they expanded testing, but are they willing to PAY for it? Based on Jano's posts about the topic, I'm guessing not.
aon1 likes this.


GearPro Rep
gearpro@securenym.net


It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
Donating Member
 
Online
Posts: 642
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: dark side of Olympus
05-06-2017, 02:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Sully View Post
As with any human endeavor, what one wants and what one is willing to pay for are 2 entirely different issues. I want a Ferrari. I'm willing to pay for a Ford. Many here may SAY they expanded testing, but are they willing to PAY for it? Based on Jano's posts about the topic, I'm guessing not.
That pretty much covers it


You can grow old graceful ......me I'll meet my maker full tilt anytime that coward wants to come get some.....
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
AnaSCI VIP
 
pesty4077's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 68
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
05-06-2017, 11:59 AM

At what costs though? Double? Triple?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-06-2017, 12:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pesty4077 View Post
At what costs though? Double? Triple?
Yeah, I guess more info is necessary to formulate an opinion.

Option 1- Test for Compound Identification, Content in mg., Heavy metal and Bacteria.

Jano requested 10,000 euros up front to purchase the necessary equipment,

Option 2 - Test for Compound Identification, Content in mg., Bacteria.

Jano requestes 3,000 euros up front to purchase the necessary equipment, then include Heavy Metal Testing later when he could recoup his investment of equipment he has already purchased.

Option 3 - Test for Compound Identification and Content in mg.

Continue with our current process.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
AnaSCI VIP
 
pesty4077's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 68
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
05-06-2017, 12:07 PM

At this point, Option 1 will be well over our costs. Unless you get another few hundred people donating, I don't see how we can justify those costs. Option 2 needs about 100 people donating $30. It is doable, but people might not be willing to go that far.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-06-2017, 12:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pesty4077 View Post
At this point, Option 1 will be well over our costs. Unless you get another few hundred people donating, I don't see how we can justify those costs. Option 2 needs about 100 people donating $30. It is doable, but people might not be willing to go that far.
My thought exactly. I have already informed Jano that $10.000 euros is not at all possible. The $3,000 is certainly possible, but I'm not sure how practical or necessary bacteria testing is. I am certainly not a chemist but, I feel someone cooking in their garage or basement in less than sanitary conditions could introduce bacteria to the end product. Some may argue that the cooking process and the alcohol will eliminate that threat. If I can be convinced that my apprehension is not justified, I can live with staying with the status quo.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
Donating Member
 
Online
Posts: 28
Join Date: Jun 2015
05-06-2017, 01:23 PM

How much of a concern is it? I mean, I always thought the heavy metals in UG gear was more folk lore than anything else?

Bacteria would be nice for peace of mind, but if it was that prevalent wouldn't we have threads about how it made them sick or how it gave them an infection?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
Donating Member
 
Online
Posts: 561
Join Date: Oct 2012
05-06-2017, 01:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Sully View Post
As with any human endeavor, what one wants and what one is willing to pay for are 2 entirely different issues. I want a Ferrari. I'm willing to pay for a Ford. Many here may SAY they expanded testing, but are they willing to PAY for it? Based on Jano's posts about the topic, I'm guessing not.


Although I did drive a Ferrari the other day , that was fun and cool

Option 3 stay with what we have now
Unfortunately and sadly we can't get $10.00 - $25.00 from Each member on this board and Pro M


Current Stats:
age - 45
ht - 5'8.5"
wt - 212
bf - 15%
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
AnaSCI Approved Tester
 
janoshik's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 58
Join Date: Mar 2016
05-06-2017, 02:21 PM

Unfortunately, unless I'd take a loan starting both heavy metal testing and microbiological testing in a reasonable amount of time is straight up impossible for me.

That's just financial limitation I got and I'm very unsure whether there is enough interest for me to get it paid off. Ever.
I'd love to do it for free, but as a small business I am I gotta make sensible decisions. Especially when I'm starting off my family, so I'm sure you all understand my position. I'm literally having 1/10th of a profit margin of laboratories like SIMEC, which were proven over and over again to half-ass their work (HGH and AAS as well). While this makes my services more available, it also decreases my financial freedom a lot.

Regarding the option two, I didn't request 3000 euros up front for equipment purchase. There might've been a slight misunderstanding.

I stated, that if I get money for the next batch of testing (3000 euros is about what is in the treasury right now) up front (and I always request money up front except when working with Mr. Buck or other people I trust) I'd be able to buy the equipment necessary. It wouldn't be a payment for microbiological testing. The payment for microbiological testing would be 70 euros, so the price would be 80 euros for current testing + 70 euros for microbiological tests: total of 150 euro per test.



For the heavy metal testing, I am even more unsure whether it's a good idea to get equip for it, for it's much more expensive and I am imagining the interest might fade very soon after first few initial tests. Not sure the bit more independence that it would gain us would be worth it.

Therefore I am continuing to contact laboratories which might be able to provide such a service that are already equipped for it. Got blown off by quite a few labs by now (hell, I'd be better of trying to test rocks for heavy metals, that's what most of them are doing and they won't accept other kind of samples as they are not equipped for those).
There's one lab that got back to me with a positiv-ish answer and I gave them more details today and asked them for a quote for a batch of about 20 samples. Hopefully it'll be acceptable.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#11)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-06-2017, 05:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by racepicks View Post
option 2 - test for compound identification, content in mg., bacteria.

jano requestes 3,000 euros up front to purchase the necessary equipment, then include heavy metal testing later when he could recoup his investment of equipment he has already purchased
Quote:
Originally Posted by janoshik View Post
regarding the option two, i didn't request 3000 euros up front for equipment purchase. There might've been a slight misunderstanding.

I stated, that if i get money for the next batch of testing (3000 euros is about what is in the treasury right now) up front (and i always request money up front except when working with mr. Buck or other people i trust) i'd be able to buy the equipment necessary. It wouldn't be a payment for microbiological testing. The payment for microbiological testing would be 70 euros, so the price would be 80 euros for current testing + 70 euros for microbiological tests: Total of 150 euro per test.
Maybe I did misunderstand




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
Donating Member
 
Online
Posts: 34
Join Date: Feb 2013
05-07-2017, 03:50 AM

Continue with our process. Although it would be nice to do option 1 and 2 ; how you gonna collect the funds? all us members are donating 20-50$ a piece. I doubt anyone wants to put more into it especially when donating members do not decide what sponsors are getting tested or compounds are getting tested.. we can vote but it doesn't mean it will happen.

I donated because I love what you guys do.. and I'm enjoy seeing tests; no matter what sponsor is; and helping our community.. that's about it
rAJJIN and janoshik like this.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 2,924
Join Date: Mar 2006
05-07-2017, 09:31 AM

I like how it is now. It's a major step up vs these labmax tests and the other current methods.
Now member can can know what they are using and the dosage of it.
Girls can know if there anavar is anavar.

For metals or bacteria Could we not outsource it or have a licensed company go to a university? Instead of buying equipment we may not even need or use often.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
get it in ya likes this.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14)
AnaSCI Approved Tester
 
janoshik's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 58
Join Date: Mar 2016
05-07-2017, 05:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rAJJIN View Post
I like how it is now. It's a major step up vs these labmax tests and the other current methods.
Now member can can know what they are using and the dosage of it.
Girls can know if there anavar is anavar.

For metals or bacteria Could we not outsource it or have a licensed company go to a university? Instead of buying equipment we may not even need or use often.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
My thinking! Still messaging the labs regarding the heavy metal testing. However, most are testing a different matrix (diff. kind of samples) or are fully booked for their own purposes or internal (therefore unable to invoice their work) so far. Hopefully over the next week I'll hear back from one lab that looks good.

Regarding the microbio testing... I'm not sure anybody even offers this kind of services in my country, but I gotta admit, I haven't really looked.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-07-2017, 05:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rAJJIN View Post
Instead of buying equipment we may not even need or use often.
This is probably true. In my opinion, if we tested 20 samples in a random test for bacteria and heavy metal and found no problems, why continue with it. But....I still want to see that first round. Again, it is up to the rank and file, if everyone wants to continue the way we are right now, I'm good with that too.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#16)
AnaSCI VET / Donating Member
 
Sully's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 2,177
Join Date: Dec 2012
05-08-2017, 07:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racepicks View Post
This is probably true. In my opinion, if we tested 20 samples in a random test for bacteria and heavy metal and found no problems, why continue with it. But....I still want to see that first round. Again, it is up to the rank and file, if everyone wants to continue the way we are right now, I'm good with that too.
I've been checking the results at https://anaboliclab.com for a long time now, and I've yet to come across one that tested above acceptable range for heavy metals. While I think it would be great to do it, I honestly don't have any real evidence to show that it's actually necessary. Despite what the authorities and media report everything they make an AAS lab bust, I'm not terribly concerned about heavy metals in my gear. I'm actually much more concerned about Deca causing early heart disease/ heart attacks.


GearPro Rep
gearpro@securenym.net


It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it- Aristotle
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#17)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-08-2017, 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lil' Sully View Post
I've been checking the results at https://anaboliclab.com for a long time now, and I've yet to come across one that tested above acceptable range for heavy metals. While I think it would be great to do it, I honestly don't have any real evidence to show that it's actually necessary. Despite what the authorities and media report everything they make an AAS lab bust, I'm not terribly concerned about heavy metals in my gear. I'm actually much more concerned about Deca causing early heart disease/ heart attacks.
I agree, Brother. If you go by the results others have posted, it would be easy to conclude that all these AAS products have a very safe amount of heavy metals and no detectable bacteria. But, I am a cynic. That is why I say that if we test a handful of products, and they are free of potential risks, then why do more. Let me ask you, what happens if we find some serious problems? Someone posted that "Obviously, people are not dying, so it must be safe". Heavy metals will not have a sudden impact on your health, it will make you sick over time. How about the people who complain about swelling, pain, heat, etc. at the injection site? Could it be the result of bacteria in the product? I don't know, but let's find out. Again, if the donating members don't agree, I'm OK with that too.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#18)
AnaSCI Approved Tester
 
janoshik's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 58
Join Date: Mar 2016
05-09-2017, 07:05 PM

Well, I got a positive response from a lab willing to test our samples for heavy metals.

Which specific ones (heavy metals) would you like to have tested and how many samples, so I can ask for a quote?

Lead, mercury, arsenic and cadmium are a good base to start with.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#19)
Super Moderator
 
Online
Posts: 197
Join Date: Jan 2013
05-09-2017, 08:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by janoshik View Post
Well, I got a positive response from a lab willing to test our samples for heavy metals.

Which specific ones (heavy metals) would you like to have tested and how many samples, so I can ask for a quote?

Lead, mercury, arsenic and cadmium are a good base to start with.
Thanks Jano. Let's go with those 4. If it is cost prohibitive, maybe we can go with just microbiological testing.




LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook
SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube

SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products
STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here
PRO WRIST STRAPS - Simply the best straps in the world
DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech
HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide
PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#20)
AnaSCI Approved Tester
 
janoshik's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 58
Join Date: Mar 2016
05-10-2017, 03:58 AM

Okay!

I'll ask for a quote for those and the 20 samples that have been mentioned.
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved  AnaSCI Fitness Evolved

Buy Needles and Syringes with NO PRESCRIPTION  Synthetek Muscle Building And Fat Loss Products  Cheap Pure Supplements

  Ed Coan-Strength Inc. 

  Join AnaSCI 

Full Pictorial Guide   

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:59 AM.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright © 2003-2017 AnaSCI.org. All rights reserved.