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Slin run - 11-06-2017, 06:02 PM

Alright fellas. I'm getting ready to start my first run with slin tomorrow. The slin I will be using is novolin n because my pharmacy only sells this one and not r. From what I've researched onset of this slin is between 1-2 hours and peaked between 4- 8 roughly.
My plan is to take 4iu pre workout. My thought is that by the time I'm done lifting it's hitting my system right in time for my post workout shake. Then I'll eat a full meal about an hour after that.
I also will have a mill 1 hour before my workout to take any risk of going hypo out of the equation.

As I'm not very experienced in this department I would like some vets on this subject to chime in and let me know what they think of my protocol.
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Not sure about the n but if you decide you want r you can order it legally online.
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Alright fellas. I'm getting ready to start my first run with slin tomorrow. The slin I will be using is novolin n because my pharmacy only sells this one and not r. From what I've researched onset of this slin is between 1-2 hours and peaked between 4- 8 roughly.
My plan is to take 4iu pre workout. My thought is that by the time I'm done lifting it's hitting my system right in time for my post workout shake. Then I'll eat a full meal about an hour after that.
I also will have a mill 1 hour before my workout to take any risk of going hypo out of the equation.

As I'm not very experienced in this department I would like some vets on this subject to chime in and let me know what they think of my protocol.
Thanks in advance!

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I personally use R, but I take it one hour prior to training with a meal, as it kicks in 1 to 2 hours then i sip dextrose, EAAs and glutamine during the workout. I find the pumps are really much improved as the insulin is shuttling nutrients in during the workout. Be aware that the N variety kicks in 2 to 4 hours and can lower blood sugar for up to 18 hours as an intermediate.acting insulin.
I would recommend R for $25 at Wal-Mart and more research.
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Not sure about the n but if you decide you want r you can order it legally online.
Can you point me towards a link?

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I personally use R, but I take it one hour prior to training with a meal, as it kicks in 1 to 2 hours then i sip dextrose, EAAs and glutamine during the workout. I find the pumps are really much improved as the insulin is shuttling nutrients in during the workout. Be aware that the N variety kicks in 2 to 4 hours and can lower blood sugar for up to 18 hours as an intermediate.acting insulin.
I would recommend R for $25 at Wal-Mart and more research.
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I believe I will go with nov r it sounds much safer especially since I'm a first time user. Is a intra workout shake necessary or can I eat a meal with carbs one hour pre workout?

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I personally use R, but I take it one hour prior to training with a meal, as it kicks in 1 to 2 hours then i sip dextrose, EAAs and glutamine during the workout. I find the pumps are really much improved as the insulin is shuttling nutrients in during the workout. Be aware that the N variety kicks in 2 to 4 hours and can lower blood sugar for up to 18 hours as an intermediate.acting insulin.
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I believe I will go with nov r it sounds much safer especially since I'm a first time user. Is a intra workout shake necessary or can I eat a meal with carbs one hour pre workout?

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Definitely do the intra drink. It ensures you're getting enough carbs, shoves them into the working muscles with water (2gm water for each gm sugar I believe) along with the lGlut and EAAs/bcaas (your choice) so you're nourishing the muscles at the same time. Remember, working out uses carbs, so insurance is best.
You'll like the pump.
Start with just a couple iu slin, be safe, don't try to take it too fast.
PS, add some peanut butter or oil to your meal to keep the breakdown slower as well. Don't worry, you won't get fat by having some fats in that meal.
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Always have sugar on hand when using any insulin.
Yup. I've eaten 140 grams of carbs, used 8iu humalog and started going hypo 2 hours later in a supermarket. So, the 7-10 rule of carbs for each iu of slin may not be perfect 100% of the time! I grabbed the glucose tablets off the shelf in the diabetic area and ripped into them in the aisle! Those are great to have around just in case.
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Definitely get regular slin. Easier to judge than longer acting. As mentioned above always have sugar on hand. If you use it pre workout then an intra shake is a must. As TGR posted it will shuttle all those carbs and nutrients into the muscle. Timing of carbs is vital on any faster acting insulin. Drink your intra shake slowly over your entire workout and you won't go hypo. Start very low in dose such as 3iu regular slin and move up by 1iu and never go above 10iu. Regular slin is much more forgiving than fast such as humalog/novolog so for your first time get that.


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Definitely get regular slin. Easier to judge than longer acting. As mentioned above always have sugar on hand. If you use it pre workout then an intra shake is a must. As TGR posted it will shuttle all those carbs and nutrients into the muscle. Timing of carbs is vital on any faster acting insulin. Drink your intra shake slowly over your entire workout and you won't go hypo. Start very low in dose such as 3iu regular slin and move up by 1iu and never go above 10iu. Regular slin is much more forgiving than fast such as humalog/novolog so for your first time get that.


It sounds like you need to do more research before starting. If it's your 1st run start very low and there should be no rush moving up in dose. Spread your carbs out and take your time. Basically don't go long periods without having carbs and keep a steady supply going. You could slam 200g carbs in 10 mins and go hypo 2 hours later. Whereas on the same dose of slin you could have 120g carbs spread over 4 hours and not go hypo.
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Thank all you guys for chiming in. I did end up going with novolin r. I don't have any intra workout stuff right now so I will just be doing it post workout.
I'm going to do 4iu along with 50mcg igf-lr3 immediately post workout followed by a shake with sugar as I don't have dextrose at the moment. Then within the hour a full meal.

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Thank all you guys for chiming in. I did end up going with novolin r. I don't have any intra workout stuff right now so I will just be doing it post workout.
I'm going to do 4iu along with 50mcg igf-lr3 immediately post workout followed by a shake with sugar as I don't have dextrose at the moment. Then within the hour a full meal.

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Intra workout could be a big container of gatorade. Sometimes, lo-tech is better.
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Intra workout could be a big container of gatorade. Sometimes, lo-tech is better.
How simple yet I didn't think of this lol. Thanks repper

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Sure man! I know both Evan Centopani and Cutler do gatorade post workout and even joked about how simple and non-cool it is. LOL
And the dextrose is like $20 for 10lbs. Again, just simple!
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Sure man! I know both Evan Centopani and Cutler do gatorade post workout and even joked about how simple and non-cool it is. LOL
And the dextrose is like $20 for 10lbs. Again, just simple!
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I like dextrose when using smaller amounts. But anything over about 50g and I can get stomach issues. With 4iu it would be ideal and cheap.


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Did you end up getting faster acting slin such as log or r? Start very low but for me I need about 10iu of r before I start really seeing noticable changes to my physique. I need quite a high amount of carbs with that dose but when combined I get really full and pumped and start putting on some good weight. Low doses get me pumped but I don't notice too much besides that. Although I have never tried a few low doses per day just around my workouts.
   
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Did you end up getting faster acting slin such as log or r? Start very low but for me I need about 10iu of r before I start really seeing noticable changes to my physique. I need quite a high amount of carbs with that dose but when combined I get really full and pumped and start putting on some good weight. Low doses get me pumped but I don't notice too much besides that. Although I have never tried a few low doses per day just around my workouts.
Ya bro I got Nov r. I've been running 4iu pre workout along with igf and then 6 hours later another 4iu. I've noticed a fuller look and I've also put on 5lb since starting. I plan on upping it to 10-15iu daily

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