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PL and BB seem really at odds to me...

I want to be strong and look good. With my body type I can never really be at the top at either...

Whenever I focus on strength, i feel like im taking time away from shaping the muscle..
when i set aside my ego and try to isolate, my big lifts go flat or even go down and I dont feel like Im progressing...

whatever I want both...Im shooting for closer to 400 on the squat tho..
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I travel a lot in the midwest. I will try to get with you at some point and we will get a hell of a workout in.

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PL and BB seem really at odds to me...

I want to be strong and look good. With my body type I can never really be at the top at either...

Whenever I focus on strength, i feel like im taking time away from shaping the muscle..
when i set aside my ego and try to isolate, my big lifts go flat or even go down and I dont feel like Im progressing...

whatever I want both...Im shooting for closer to 400 on the squat tho..
youre a madman
Having trained and competed in bbing for 10 years before transitioning to Pling I would agree they do appear to be at odds with each other. And to a degree they are. However, using DUP or daily undulating periodization is the best fix and possibly the best way to train period.

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I travel a lot in the midwest. I will try to get with you at some point and we will get a hell of a workout in.

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Great lift bro!

I will be at the expo plus bringing some guys that are doin booth work.

That makes me want to squat so bad right now lol
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Great lift bro!

I will be at the expo plus bringing some guys that are doin booth work.

That makes me want to squat so bad right now lol
Very cool. Man I can't wait!

Figures the only way I would out squat you is for you to get injured...lol.

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I tried to watch the vidio and allI got was sound-nothing else
I need to see it man- I am hoping to be able to squat again- love the feeling- so much fun to jump in with big guys and rep out with the max. You must see it a lot-guys put on 405 and go half way down for 1 or 2 reps and think they are bad ass. We pit on 600 and 700 lbs and they don't know what to think. We had on 1100 for my budy- every one in the gym was sitting and watching- he got it for 1 before that he got 960 for 8 full deep reps- he is also 6' 4" and 280+
Was fun to watch and great to train with him- little tough- me short as hell and him tall
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That is awesome! I've never seen anyone squat those numbers anywhere
in 35 yrs of hardcore iron pits . That is badass !
I can't wait to tell my buddy in this video to hanger up! He was thinking he would get the all time record raw squat at spf in august. shit his little squat in this video is only a 75 lbs higher for a single than your buds deep 960 x8!
I would love to stick that 960x 8 in his face if you have some video.Y
What the heck federation did this guy lift in? man just when you think you have seen it all! Post up the vids . this will be awesome!
Thanks for posting..!.. TURBOBUSA..........
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Awesome CH!
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Turbobusa - I sent you a pm
Wasn't sure if the guy would want me to post him up here
He was in the USAWA

Chicken halk- If I can get my ass back in and work around my injeries-I am coming over to squat with you- Is there a way you can post the movie again
That is awsome-hitting 600lbs man- wish you were around here- my body would love to work with you
They say the only difference between 600 and 800 is form tweeks and the group you are pushing with
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Chicken halk I am glad you posted this- am doing squats. Now-starting today with the bar man
If you didn't start this thred I would be at the donut shack instead- one day at a time for this old fk
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Pasted the link again Squatster. Sorry, for the delay but I was at a meet in Chicago and was away from the board. But, hey I am no Derek Kendall, but I will train with anyone who goes to depth. Half ass half squatters usually stay clear as my gym only has a few 500 + squatters...and just as few who take 405 to depth.
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It's so much easer to keep form and ballance going deep with heavy weights
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It's so much easer to keep form and ballance going deep with heavy weights
You are right on the money with that squatster!
large mover muscles activate at various points on decent and accent.
I noted you said you area bit older. Small tweaks can make a huge difference. contrary to popular () belief 3/4 and half squats, staying above parallel are god way to fuck something up. Ok to takea short rep feel when breaking new ground. A 1000 lb carefully spottec walk out can really help some break say the 830 barrier for full as an example.
As a general rule though short reps are a recipe for imbalances .

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Awesome lift, bro!
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PL and BB seem really at odds to me...

I want to be strong and look good. With my body type I can never really be at the top at either...

Whenever I focus on strength, i feel like im taking time away from shaping the muscle..
when i set aside my ego and try to isolate, my big lifts go flat or even go down and I dont feel like Im progressing...

whatever I want both...Im shooting for closer to 400 on the squat tho..
youre a madman
It can definitely seem that way, but I'm convinced you need both if you want to be a truly developed bodybuilder. I like to work in 3 week powerlifting cycles, where I'll do two consecutive cycles, and then switch to a high volume style of training for a few weeks. Right now I'm powerlifting three days a week, with one high volume leg day, and have been throwing in a few high volume exercises after my main lifts are done on the other days. I put on a lot of size over the past year with this approach, because I've never focused so much on improving my strength.
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It can definitely seem that way, but I'm convinced you need both if you want to be a truly developed bodybuilder. I like to work in 3 week powerlifting cycles, where I'll do two consecutive cycles, and then switch to a high volume style of training for a few weeks. Right now I'm powerlifting three days a week, with one high volume leg day, and have been throwing in a few high volume exercises after my main lifts are done on the other days. I put on a lot of size over the past year with this approach, because I've never focused so much on improving my strength.
There is some solid wisdom there. When I started Pling I did not want any more size, but in just a few years of nothing above 5 reps I have put on nearly 15 lbs. Don't underestimate the size of fast twitch fibers...just look at a sprinters quads...dam.

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You are a fucking BEAST!!! Damn!
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That was too easy for you, add some more weight. Seriously, great job. You made it look easy.
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That was too easy for you, add some more weight. Seriously, great job. You made it look easy.
Thanks, it went up fast. I suspect I had another 30 to 40 in the tank if I can walk it out lol.

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