I guess some people STILL need to hear this though..... unfortunately. It is true that people can get to around 230-250(assuming they're 6'0 tall) on rather low/moderate amounts when they are genetic freaks. I know because I seen people IRL literally use 750test and get to 242 with abs in 1-1.5 years of training with only 8 months of use. I've said it before, I'll say it again: If anybody told me that, I would say they're full of **** . But I saw it happen.... so it definetly shows genetics can be ridiculous. However -- I believe there is a CERTAIN point -- where no matter how good your genetics are, you suddenly need to pump in 4, then 5, then 6, then 7...8...9...even 10grams of AAS alongside the HGH/Insulin. There's probably a "brick wall" that people hit no matter what their genetics, and the wall keeps coming over and over once you start climbing the ladder of reaching absurd sizes(Big Ramy-312 with abs...anybody?). But yeah , if you don't have the genetics in the first place to hit 240 on 750test in 1-1.5 years, you probably shouldn't be gunning for the Olympia and hang it up. Because you will end up taking 2-5x what others are using and STILL not looking as good...
For the record, I would not say that people on the Olympia stage are using "mild cycles" nowadays. The reason I say this, is that a certain Mr.Olympia between the years 1975-1995 (not giving out a name) used the following anabolics in his final year when he looked his absolute best:
1750 sustanon/week
800 deca/week
100-150 anadrol ED(up to 3 months on/1-2 off)
+tren added on and off into this mix
+some halotestin added pre-contest
Most of the year, this guy was on pretty much 4grams....it could have gone up to like 4500.
I wouldn't say 4000-4500mg of gear is by any means "mild". Also, take into account the dude trained like 15-20 years before getting to this point, and YET he would get his ass kicked by even some NPC competitors nowadays despite having such good genetics......
This leads me to believe that it is very believable to see people being on 8-10 grams + GH/Insulin in good amounts.....
Example(I'm just guessing...don't know actual amounts) :
3,500 test
1,000 deca
1,000 eq
300-400 anadrol ED(on and off)
300-1000+ tren(on and off;depends time of year)
600-800 masteron
I know for a fact that it is very common to use 3g+ test alongside 1k deca/eq and anadrol is used anywhere from 300-500(yes, I said 500...) a day with an on/off protocol for orals.
The rest is speculation.
The test/deca/eq/anadrol dosages alone would push it to 7-9grams of gear...this is not including GH/Insulin/Peptides.
Regardless, he is right in saying that even if we took a bunch of these kids and put them on 8grams with hgh, they won't look anywhere near the guys on Olympia stage...EVER.