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IMO, T-bol is really harsh and for the return I just don't see a place for it in the "gym rat" community. If your not growing on Test/Deca/D-bol. Trust me there is a fundamental problem else where pertaining to diet, training or rest. I would work harder at the basic lifts, basic gear, basic diets. Keep it simple stupid.....lol
Apple cider vinegar.
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