Hahah yeah ...they bought generic dumbbells I guess cause all the db in there only said the weight of each plate not the total weight like the troys do. I dont go all that heavy anymore anyway tho ...it doesnt do me any good ...its how u move the weight not how much...hahahahaha my forearms r bigger than most of the guys that go to my regular gym damn near 16in pumped on arm day I curl a 30 or 40 pound db slow and controled and they curl a 60-65 with 14-15in arms