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AtomAnt

AtomAnt

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Late to the show here, but when you were previously on TRT were you using HCG?

If not and your estrogen was normal, then adding it in now may raise estrogen levels because HCG also stimulates test production.

Also, one reason you may be bloating is the hormonal fluctuations. Hormonal fluctuations tend to raise estrogen levels. So if your test is going up and down, which would be caused by the prop, and not steady or smooth rises and falls, your estrogen may be increased. With that in mind, it may be beneficial to add an AI, such as exemestane.
 
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Alinshop

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jim230027 said:
Good.... For the mast i wouldn't run less than 350-400 ew if you are trying to see the benefits from the compound. as far as muscle hardness etc. Also in my opinion the leaner you are the more you will notice the mast working
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Informative post, right there^
 
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ken913

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Sep 24, 2013
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AtomAnt said:
Late to the show here, but when you were previously on TRT were you using HCG?

If not and your estrogen was normal, then adding it in now may raise estrogen levels because HCG also stimulates test production.

Also, one reason you may be bloating is the hormonal fluctuations. Hormonal fluctuations tend to raise estrogen levels. So if your test is going up and down, which would be caused by the prop, and not steady or smooth rises and falls, your estrogen may be increased. With that in mind, it may be beneficial to add an AI, such as
exemestane.
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I have always been on HCG since doing HRT.


My understanding of HCG is this. I hear people saying its a waste to be on HCG while on AAS yet I think we are coming at it from two different views.

So....

If you cycle with AAS you use HCG on PCT to prevent a crash and to stimulate the natural production of test..is this correct?

conversely if you are on HRT then you are always on AAS and there never is a PCT....is this correct?

Then follows this logic;
if you never cycle off AAS then your testicles will never be stimulated to start producing again...hence the need for HCG unless you don't care about testicular atrophy.
 
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kubes

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No hcg is counter productive during pct as it will suppress lh function. Use it during your cycle or at the end to maintain testicular function before starting pct. There are many trt protocols that use hcg year round. 200-250 iu 2xew will do the job
 
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ken913

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jim230027 said:
No hcg is counter productive during pct as it will suppress lh function. Use it during your cycle or at the end to maintain testicular function before starting pct. There are many trt protocols that use hcg year round. 200-250 iu 2xew will do the job
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thank you for the info that helps
 
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