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anyone feel like they just dont respond well to hormones?
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Concreteguy
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You didn't "miss" the diet. He has been asked several times for it.
I wondering at this point if he is trolling?
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sorry no troll here fellas. diet is currently fish, meat, egg whites a main protein source. breads, rice, pasta, cereal, fruit as main carb sources and nuts, evoo, pb for main fat sources. diet isnt perfect tho, ill go off track, especially when trying to add mass. i shoot for 50g pro, 35-40 carbs and 25 fats per meal, eating 5 times a day usually
Enigmatic707
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I'm curious, how much has your strength changed since you've started to use gear?
How old are your pics?
Also another point- if that's your diet on a perfect day, IMO I would say that's more like a maintenance diet- I'd think if your having a hard time gaining your probable want to bump up your calories quite a bit. Without doing the math, I think that's around ~2900 calories. And assuming that's your diet on a good day then you're really short changing yourself.
How old are your pics?
Also another point- if that's your diet on a perfect day, IMO I would say that's more like a maintenance diet- I'd think if your having a hard time gaining your probable want to bump up your calories quite a bit. Without doing the math, I think that's around ~2900 calories. And assuming that's your diet on a good day then you're really short changing yourself.
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well when i say go off track, i mean i eat more than normal lol. those pics were taken this morning. and strength has went up, but nothing mind blowing
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Enigmatic707
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What cycles and brands have you ran-
When you say you haven't seen much strength gain almost makes me think it could be the gear or doses?
When you say you haven't seen much strength gain almost makes me think it could be the gear or doses?
i take it im allowed to post sources, since you asked. if not i apologize mods. anyhow ive used spartan labs, arl, fast muscle and currently using a guy i know who is private/limited in who he deals with
ive run test/tren, test only, test/deca/dbol. test/tren was my best run, leaned up nicely but no real mass gains. highest mg per week was a little over a gram
ive run test/tren, test only, test/deca/dbol. test/tren was my best run, leaned up nicely but no real mass gains. highest mg per week was a little over a gram
AtomAnt
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Well at 2,900 (or if you use 35g carbs - 2,825kcal) no wonder you aren't gaining size. I hate using myself as an example, but we are close in age but I am 5'2" and about 165lbs and eating 4,000kcals+... The result, I went from sickly 120lbs in November of last year to now, 165lbs.
Get consistent. Do not miss a meal for two years straight. Do not miss a day of training for two years straight. If you aren't growing, eat more...and do that every damn day like fucking clockwork. If after two years you haven't added some serious size, then talk about being a non-responder, but right now it is all in your diet and training.
Get consistent. Do not miss a meal for two years straight. Do not miss a day of training for two years straight. If you aren't growing, eat more...and do that every damn day like fucking clockwork. If after two years you haven't added some serious size, then talk about being a non-responder, but right now it is all in your diet and training.
Concreteguy
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Respect the brutal honesty atom. You may very well be right, I've just always been afraid of getting fat. I was chubby as a teen so....
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The other thing is you probably don't need to be doing super and drop sets at this point. I would focus on progression above all else in your training. Every week you should strive to at least beat your reps from the previous session, if not add a little more weight.
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I want to hear a lil about your training style.
Cause even at those low calories you should still be seeing some gains. I want to guess just by looking at your pics- that you're not lifting heavy/ intensely enough.
The reason I say this is- if you were lifting like a mad man and eating the diet you are then you would have a more cut and full look. I can see some vascularity in your arms but in you shoulders, lats and chest look almost untrained. As if you're not lifting heavy enough to induce the "lifter" look.
I'm really not trying to be a dick and god knows I don't look great by any means I am really just trying to eliminate different variables in order to pin point what could be going wrong.
Post up your typical routine as far as day you lift and what your style is- how many sets and reps and how close to max you come to in each rep.
Cause even at those low calories you should still be seeing some gains. I want to guess just by looking at your pics- that you're not lifting heavy/ intensely enough.
The reason I say this is- if you were lifting like a mad man and eating the diet you are then you would have a more cut and full look. I can see some vascularity in your arms but in you shoulders, lats and chest look almost untrained. As if you're not lifting heavy enough to induce the "lifter" look.
I'm really not trying to be a dick and god knows I don't look great by any means I am really just trying to eliminate different variables in order to pin point what could be going wrong.
Post up your typical routine as far as day you lift and what your style is- how many sets and reps and how close to max you come to in each rep.
Diets huge for sure. Hormones need cholesterol to preform so maybe after a blood test we can help pin point it down.I just can't see someone doing a gram or more not responding. Thanks Ib
your using real serious gear. some people have to run "higher" doses but not necc high doses. its impossible not to respond, else you wouldn't have any muscle mass. at all, hence why even women get bigger bc they do have anabolic/androgen receptors.
my offseason after this show will be eating like this 6-7 meals
80-100g protein
100-150g carbs
fat is whatever
if you cant grow by eating like that (will be running serious compounds) then youre dead or not lifting. If you want to get big, eat and train. no excuses. if you don't have the chemicals in you that joe blow does, then your training and diet can be the same either.
my offseason after this show will be eating like this 6-7 meals
80-100g protein
100-150g carbs
fat is whatever
if you cant grow by eating like that (will be running serious compounds) then youre dead or not lifting. If you want to get big, eat and train. no excuses. if you don't have the chemicals in you that joe blow does, then your training and diet can be the same either.
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