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Lantus/Keto Protocol
- Thread starter Concreteguy
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Marvin, the place is coming back to life in a good way. The staff is working to keep fresh content and interesting topics at hand. Were getting new members that are interacting in open forum every day. Not just bodies these new guys have been around the block and now the drill. 
Mark, there's a specific reason for the gear I recommend. RamboStalone asked me this this morning. But for the record:any gear that works good ON YOU will be just fine with this protocal.
<<<1g test base a week, haha love the hardcore truth here!!! How you liking that say compared to running 1g or grams of cyp, prop, etc?
Rambo, I cut and will paste from the first page of my Log for you to read:
Why high estrogen???
Testosterone Suspension:
160mlg of testosterone suspension will create a great deal of estrogen since it originates as a non-esterfied AAS. Estrogen up-regulates the muscle cells glucose transporters called GLUT-4 and increases androgen receptor sensitivity. This also means that the administered testosterone is free or unbound from its inactivating protein SHBG. A great deal of the hormone entering the circulatory system is quickly bound, though not before a serious degree of anabolism should take place. But there is a portion left bound and in reserve.
(Insulin) inhibited SHBG should be freed up resulting in a synergistic anabolic response. By freeing the remaining testosterone from SHBG an increase in androgenic activity should take place. Since SHBG is also estrogen binding the protein excretion of estrogens should be dramatically accelerated. This results in rapid estrogen clearing and an increase in GH. Most of you guys now GH and insulin must both be present in the liver to produce IGF-1.
BTW: The gear and amounts I recommend is what I believe is necessary for extreme growth in this chemical environment. Feel free to add or subtract as you see fit. As far as the "water based"? I think it's a necessity for optimum results.>>>
<<<1g test base a week, haha love the hardcore truth here!!! How you liking that say compared to running 1g or grams of cyp, prop, etc?
Rambo, I cut and will paste from the first page of my Log for you to read:
Why high estrogen???
Testosterone Suspension:
160mlg of testosterone suspension will create a great deal of estrogen since it originates as a non-esterfied AAS. Estrogen up-regulates the muscle cells glucose transporters called GLUT-4 and increases androgen receptor sensitivity. This also means that the administered testosterone is free or unbound from its inactivating protein SHBG. A great deal of the hormone entering the circulatory system is quickly bound, though not before a serious degree of anabolism should take place. But there is a portion left bound and in reserve.
(Insulin) inhibited SHBG should be freed up resulting in a synergistic anabolic response. By freeing the remaining testosterone from SHBG an increase in androgenic activity should take place. Since SHBG is also estrogen binding the protein excretion of estrogens should be dramatically accelerated. This results in rapid estrogen clearing and an increase in GH. Most of you guys now GH and insulin must both be present in the liver to produce IGF-1.
BTW: The gear and amounts I recommend is what I believe is necessary for extreme growth in this chemical environment. Feel free to add or subtract as you see fit. As far as the "water based"? I think it's a necessity for optimum results.>>>
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This is a very interesting idea. I love using Lantus with GH. I'd love to hear more from anyone who tries this as I might give it a go in the future.
Lantus is activates igf1 large scale much better than other insulins. Its safer, users forget tho that its cumulative. Meaning it collects in the body during use. The first 5 days are more forgiving but after that plasma levels are more stable and bg has to be monitored, as far as fat storage goes its nothing frag 176-191 and t4 cant remove. It will be in your body steadily during frequent pulses of growth hormone large scale keeping you consitently anabolic. Feeding and consistent calories along long range (good quality) proteins for night time and youre good to go. You can also keep your dosages low and add aditional humalog/novolog pre workout and not exceed 30 days..on off months lr3 metformin maybe efficient fasting you should resentitise.
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Guess what? Elvia just pmed me with info from 2011 about a guy on RX using lantus and Palombos keto diet to lose weight. He didn't talk about the muscle gains but he did land on 50iu for his number. The good news is I guess he also found out his body couldn't convert any more proteins to carbs than would be handled by Lantus at 50iu. Go figure............ so the 50iu is probably something you can all hang your hats on.
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I could swear elvia spoke about humalog. Glad people are introducing lantus in the game.Guess what? Elvia just pmed me with info from 2011 about a guy on RX using lantus and Palombos keto diet to lose weight. He didn't talk about the muscle gains but he did land on 50iu for his number. The good news is I guess he also found out his body couldn't convert any more proteins to carbs than would be handled by Lantus at 50iu. Go figure............ so the 50iu is probably something you can all hang your hats on.
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Read this along time ago and made sense, still rather get a full thyroid pannel done while on cycle see where everything is at.
https://forums.steroid.com/igf-1-lr3-hgh-insulin-questions/528384-t4-t3-hgh.html
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https://forums.steroid.com/igf-1-lr3-hgh-insulin-questions/528384-t4-t3-hgh.html
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b-boy
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If I were to do this protocol and take in fats the main fat sources would be coconut oil and olive oil, and some grass fed butter here and there. I would want ketone production high as possible maybe even taking some exogenous ketones pre workout.
It’s always been drilled in my head that when your on a KETO diet you are supposed to keep your fats higher than proteins. This is not true if your taking Lantus? Is your liver taking a hit consuming all this protein? How much fat are you eating daily? Where are you getting your days from?
I personally love the ketosis diet and after reading this I really want to try this. When I throw my body in ketosis it takes me about 2 weeks to start feeling good again. That’s probably when I would start the lantus just to be a little safer.
I personally love the ketosis diet and after reading this I really want to try this. When I throw my body in ketosis it takes me about 2 weeks to start feeling good again. That’s probably when I would start the lantus just to be a little safer.
b-boy
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you DO NOT need to keep fats higher than protein. Keto is the absence of carbs and had nothing to do with fat intake. You can eat nothing but protein (PSMF diet) and reach ketosis
squatster
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But isnt it already in ketosis at that point? I have been reading your posts and love them. It makes me think about the science of this thing we do but I still cant wrap my mind around this. If you are already ketp how does slin take you beyond that?
Bruce, for some it takes a little longer to get into true ketosis. The Lantus removes all doubt. That's all.
BTW: It's good to see you posting in the open forum bro!
BTW: It's good to see you posting in the open forum bro!