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Gyno! - 02-10-2007, 10:51 PM

Wondering if anyone here has ever gone through surgical procedure to get rid of gyno? I got it on one side behind the nipple theres like a walnut size growth F-ing irratating.Just looking for any tips solutions or info? Thanks
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02-11-2007, 08:56 AM

ive heard relaxafin(spelt wrong) works wonders, ive also heard people swear by yohimniburn, and even bromo

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02-11-2007, 10:09 PM

wiat, there is medication to take care of gyno after it has formed?
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02-11-2007, 11:03 PM

i heard a guy on one forum swear by bromo, i tried it, it did lesson it some anyway, talked to a nother guy you was swearing by yohimnyburn, trying this one now with limited results, but with some results none the less, talked to a guy how said he got rid of it by mixing formastane with alchohole and applying daily, i havent tried this one though, and i havent got ahold of any relaxofin yet but want to give it a go, there have been studys to on adolesent boys with prepubesent gyno that it apperantly has worked for....

this is a copy of a thread i found on CJM

Raloxifene For Gyno
Raloxifene info for gyno
I just wanna share this info about a new treatment for those who have gyno issues and don't wanna shell out the cash for surgery. Now know that you'll have to get a couple of bottles, but hey, spending $100-200 on some Raloxifene beats the heck outta $3k on surgery (that's for a cheapo surgeon).

Now can one still take this & continue doing there cycle ??

Here's a copy/paste from a guy's thread on AnabolicMinds:
Originally Posted by Danl4560
Week 1: 5 caps RXT/120mg Ralox (Started to feel the onset of depression, extremely moody, sex drive through the roof.. we're talking erections from bumpy car rides here)
Weeks 2-3: 4 caps RXT/60mg Ralox (No more depression, only slight mood swings)
Weeks 4-5: 3 caps RXT/60mg Ralox
Week 6: 2caps RXT/60mg Ralox
I'm currently on week 6, and the lump is entirely gone.

Here's background info:
Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMS)

EVISTA® (raloxifene hydrochloride) is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) that belongs to the benzothiophene class of compounds.

The chemical designation is methanone, [6-hydroxy-2-(4-hydroxyphenyl)benzo[ b]thien-3-yl]-[ 4-[ 2-(1-piperidinyl) ethoxy] phenyl]-, hydrochloride. Raloxifene hydrochloride (HCl) has the empirical formula C28H27NO4S • HCl, which corresponds to a molecular weight of 510.05. Raloxifene HCl is an off-white to pale-yellow solid that is very slightly soluble in water. Raloxifene (Evista) has the ability to bind to and activate the estrogen receptor while exhibiting tissue-specific effects distinct from estradiol. As a result, raloxifene is the first of a benzothiophene series of antiestrogens to be labeled a SERM.

Raloxifene was specifically developed to maintain beneficial estrogenic activity on bone and lipids and antiestrogenic activity on en***etrial and breast tissue. In December 1997, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) labeled raloxifene for the prevention of osteoporosis.

Although the exact mechanism of action of raloxifene and other similar compounds has not yet been determined, it has been hypothesized that these agents work by inducing conformational changes in the estrogen receptor, resulting in differential expression of specific estrogen-regulated genes in different tissues. Activation of the estrogen receptor by these compounds may involve multiple molecular pathways that may result in gene expression of ligand-, tissue- and/or gene-specific receptors.

Because SERMs are capable of inducing specific changes in the estrogen receptor, it is not surprising that they may mediate specific pharmacologic activity through their unique agonist or antagonist properties. For example, the agonistic properties of raloxifene on bone tissue were recently demonstrated by the specific activation of the human transforming growth factor-b3 gene, which is an important regulator of bone remodeling.

Raloxifene also appears to have a favorable effect on lipid parameters in postmenopausal women. In the published European trial,13 treatment with raloxifene in a dosage of 30, 60 or 150 mg per day resulted in significant decreases in the serum concentrations of total and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol over a 24-month period (P < 0.05 versus placebo). These decreases were evident during the first three months of therapy and were maintained thereafter. Notably, none of the treatment groups showed any changes in serum concentrations of high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol and triglycerides.

So you see:
BOTH Raloxifene and Tamoxifen are highly effective, with Raloxifene being somewhat more effective. But both have been proven to work. So don't listen to your wanna-be internet gurus who say there's no way to reduce existing gyno. Nolva has been used for this in studies for years, and now we have an even stronger ally.

Here is a study regarding the effects of Raloxifene compared to Tamoxifen on gyno:

1: J Pediatr. 2004 Jul;145(1):71-6. Related Articles, Links

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* J Pediatr. 2005 Apr;146(4):576; author reply 576-7.
* J Pediatr. 2005 Apr;146(4):576; author reply 576-7.

Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia.
Lawrence SE, Faught KA, Vethamuthu J, Lawson ML.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

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OBJECTIVES: To assess the efficacy of the anti-estrogens tamoxifen and raloxifene in the medical management of persistent pubertal gynecomastia.

STUDY DESIGN: Retrospective chart review of 38 consecutive patients with persistent pubertal gynecomastia who presented to a pediatric endocrinology clinic. Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene).

RESULTS: Mean (SD) age of treated subjects was 14.6 (1.5) years with gynecomastia duration of 28.3 (16.4) months. Mean reduction in breast nodule diameter was 2.1 cm (95% CI 1.7, 2.7, P <.0001) after treatment with tamoxifen and 2.5 cm (95% CI 1.7, 3.3, P <.0001) with raloxifene. Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients.

CONCLUSION: Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.

PMID: 15238910 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Here's benefits and side effects:
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Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators (SERMs)
Selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) are compounds that bind with estrogen receptors and exhibit estrogen action in
some tissues and anti-estrogen action in other tissues. Today SERMs are used for the menopausal woman as an alternative to
estrogen replacement and by infertile women for ovulation induction. For menopausal women, the ideal SERM would deliver
all the benefits of estrogen without the adverse effects. Although SERMs may not be closely related chemically to the estrogen
produced in a woman’s body, people sometimes use the term “designer estrogen” to describe them. A few better-known SERMs
are outlined below:
Raloxifene (Marketed as Evista™)
• Primary Indication – FDA-approved for prevention and treatment of osteoporosis in postmenopausal women.
• Bone Effects – Increases bone density, although apparently to a lesser degree than estrogen or bisphosphonates (Fosamax™,
Actonel™). Raloxifene reduces the risk of fractures in women with a history of osteoporosis.
• Breast Effects – Does not appear to harm the breast or increase the risk of breast cancer. One study has shown an association
with raloxifene and a lower risk of breast cancer in average-risk women. Studies are ongoing to determine if raloxifene reduces
the risk of breast cancer in high-risk women.
• Cardiovascular Effects – Decreases total cholesterol and low-density cholesterol (“bad cholesterol”). Raloxifene has no effect
on high-density cholesterol (“good cholesterol”) and triglycerides.
• Venous Thrombosis – Like estrogen, raloxifene increases risk of deep venous thrombosis (blood clots).
• Menopausal Symptoms – Does not relieve vasomotor flushes. In fact, they are a common side effect. Raloxifene does not relieve
vaginal dryness.


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