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Ironbuilt · **Results for Liver blood test on my sasquatch .help -** 03-22-2013, 03:14 AM

Took him In for the basic liver / w urinalysis and blood draw
Issues :
Bun 26 high.. 6-24 average
Creatinine serum 1.62 high. Average .76-1.27
eGFR 49. Low. 59>is best
GGT 72 high average 0-62
WBC 3.7 low average 4.0-10.5
RDW 15.5 high average 12.3-15 .4
High end of monocytes 13. Range is 0-13

Everything else in limits .. any help in what what means and what people advise is appreciated by him
.thanks ib.

Mast 750. Tne 400.. is his trt from the specialist..

**MR. BMJ** · 03-22-2013, 04:10 AM

Any dehydration and weight training is going to effect creatinine serum and the GFR values. Those with larger muscle mass will always, well generally, have higher creatinine levels because of the increased tissue mass. BUN will be higher for those eating larger protein intakes.

His GGT is slightly elevated, but only by 10 points.

dudcki27 · 03-22-2013, 04:14 AM

Causes of a High Level of BUN and Creatine | eHow.com good info.

dudcki27 · 03-22-2013, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MR. BMJ

Any dehydration and weight training is going to effect creatinine serum and the GFR values. Those with larger muscle mass will always, well generally, have higher creatinine levels because of the increased tissue mass. BUN will be higher for those eating larger protein intakes.

His GGT is slightly elevated, but only by 10 points.

Exactly. And if blood was drawn on a training day levels will be higher. I take at least 2 days off before blood work.

Ironbuilt · 03-22-2013, 06:00 PM

My wbc is low .2011 it was 5.75.
High protein check. Muscle and size.check.. dehydrate neg.but I did draw first In am.fasted 12 hrs and gym night before at 8 pm

Bump for help ..thanks.dudcki and BMJ

Urine clean /6.0 ph blood also
Little high potassium

**AtomAnt** · **Results for Liver blood test on my sasquatch .help -** 03-23-2013, 05:26 AM

My opinion is that I would not worry about CGT being elevated since that is likely due to training and if AST and ALT are fine, then your liver is healthy.

As others have said, high protein can affect BUN and creatinine and typically aren't cause for alarm unless other factors are at play. High potassium can either be from too much stress in the kidneys and not grunt able to eliminate it or from trauma, which causes potassium to be released. With elevated CGT and potassium, I think training might have elevated these two.

If RDW is high but MCV is normal, there is likely no cause for alarm and it could simply be from lack of iron or b-12 rather than a renal or hepatic issue. And your liver tests would confirm whether this was hepatic.

Overall, I think there is no reason to be concerned over those numbers unless you are having strange physical symptoms

**turbobusa** · 03-23-2013, 10:50 AM

Pretty much my thoughts too AA. I'd be watchful IB if you add any drol /eq or other aas(all do just some more than others) known to cause RBC to jump up. Bp will start tomrise generally when
that occurs. My own rbc got up to about 20 in 2011. I was one big ole vascular walking headache. Good way to fuck up kidneys, eyes, heart etc. Blood clots become a real concern with thick blood. Maldorff over at pm has really good knowledge /insight in that area. Otherwise most of your numbers can be attributed to intense traing and higher protein intake.
Stay healthy bro. What would do around here without our jokester?

, T..............

**AtomAnt** · **Results for Liver blood test on my sasquatch .help -** 03-23-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobusa

What would do around here without our jokester?

, T..............

Amen! I might have to donate my liver to bring him back. A life without IB is not a life worth living

***Bio*** · 03-24-2013, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironbuilt

My wbc is low .2011 it was 5.75.
High protein check. Muscle and size.check.. dehydrate neg.but I did draw first In am.fasted 12 hrs and gym night before at 8 pm

Bump for help ..thanks.dudcki and BMJ

Urine clean /6.0 ph blood also
Little high potassium

Definitely keep the potassium in check! High crit and high potassium is bad news!!

FordFan · 03-24-2013, 07:32 PM

How long has the Sasquatch been on that cycle? How long is the planned cycle for?

Keep that bad boy healthy!

Daveyjones · 12:02 AM

Alt and ast are really the main things to look at in the hospital i intern at. if those are in range and the other stuff is not way high or low then u should be good.

Ironbuilt · 03:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveyjones

Alt and ast are really the main things to look at in the hospital i intern at. if those are in range and the other stuff is not way high or low then u should be good.

I don't see that ? My test was medlab cmp12+8ac+cbc /D/Plt+UA.
Liver function test....

AST (SGOT). 39. 0-40 is range ..so I'm screwed?

Ironbuilt · 03-25-2013, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by *Bio*

Definitely keep the potassium in check! High crit and high potassium is bad news!!

How am I suppose to lower potassium if any
?
And Ford he is done with cycle end of march. He has been on for a while. U know...lol

Daveyjones · 03-25-2013, 04:41 PM

No If its from 0-40 and u
Are 39 then ur fine, it's high normal but again ur in range and considering ur on aas that's actually pretty good. If u could black out ur name and post the actual differentials I might be of more help, all the same I'm just a upper class man pre med student who has taken a specific interest in endocrinology we are known for looking for the zebra and not the horse. I did talk to the medical director today though about liver function test and he said those things can fluctuate greatly depending on a variety of things it's when u Start to consistently test high or low in things is when u should worry

Ironbuilt · 03-25-2013, 08:19 PM

Let me get my house girl to post ..what pisses me off the ranges fluctuate from lab to lab!. So how's.the zebra gonna find the horse..?

Daveyjones · 08:46 PM

It means that as upperclassman undergrads we are learning about things that are uncommon things that a full fleged doctor would keep in the back of their head hence the "zebra" where as doctors and upper level med students are learning/know about more common things hence the "horse" basically it means that a doctor would diagnose some one with a soar throat and swollen lymph nodes with strep (horse) before stage 2 lymphoma (zebra) (of course more goes into a diagnosis then just those symptoms) the saying goes look for horses before zebras

Jim550 · 03-25-2013, 08:44 PM

looks fine, nothing to worry about imo

Ironbuilt · 03-27-2013, 11:53 PM

Here are my labs. Sorry it took me so long to get them posted

**MR. BMJ** · 03-28-2013, 01:38 AM

Those values look good, i'd not stress yourself out on them.

Ironbuilt · 03-28-2013, 03:52 AM

Ok.thanks . I wasn't too stressed I'm just a person maybe ocd or something that I want ever thing perfect.if its not I change as need be. Appreciate the info thread is closed

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Ironbuilt Banned Offline Posts: 8,353 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Mûnich , Germany	Results for Liver blood test on my sasquatch .help - 03-22-2013, 03:14 AM Took him In for the basic liver / w urinalysis and blood draw Issues : Bun 26 high.. 6-24 average Creatinine serum 1.62 high. Average .76-1.27 eGFR 49. Low. 59>is best GGT 72 high average 0-62 WBC 3.7 low average 4.0-10.5 RDW 15.5 high average 12.3-15 .4 High end of monocytes 13. Range is 0-13 Everything else in limits .. any help in what what means and what people advise is appreciated by him .thanks ib. Mast 750. Tne 400.. is his trt from the specialist..

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MR. BMJ AnaSCI VIP / Donating Member Online Posts: 1,592 Join Date: Sep 2006	03-22-2013, 04:10 AM Any dehydration and weight training is going to effect creatinine serum and the GFR values. Those with larger muscle mass will always, well generally, have higher creatinine levels because of the increased tissue mass. BUN will be higher for those eating larger protein intakes. His GGT is slightly elevated, but only by 10 points.

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dudcki27 Banned Offline Posts: 1,856 Join Date: Oct 2012	03-22-2013, 04:14 AM Causes of a High Level of BUN and Creatine \| eHow.com good info.

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Ironbuilt Banned Offline Posts: 8,353 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Mûnich , Germany	03-22-2013, 06:00 PM My wbc is low .2011 it was 5.75. High protein check. Muscle and size.check.. dehydrate neg.but I did draw first In am.fasted 12 hrs and gym night before at 8 pm Bump for help ..thanks.dudcki and BMJ Urine clean /6.0 ph blood also Little high potassium

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AtomAnt AnaSCI VET Offline Posts: 2,208 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Swole-Nation	Results for Liver blood test on my sasquatch .help - 03-23-2013, 05:26 AM My opinion is that I would not worry about CGT being elevated since that is likely due to training and if AST and ALT are fine, then your liver is healthy. As others have said, high protein can affect BUN and creatinine and typically aren't cause for alarm unless other factors are at play. High potassium can either be from too much stress in the kidneys and not grunt able to eliminate it or from trauma, which causes potassium to be released. With elevated CGT and potassium, I think training might have elevated these two. If RDW is high but MCV is normal, there is likely no cause for alarm and it could simply be from lack of iron or b-12 rather than a renal or hepatic issue. And your liver tests would confirm whether this was hepatic. Overall, I think there is no reason to be concerned over those numbers unless you are having strange physical symptoms Women's Bodybuilding Overall National Champion and IFBB Professional -All posts are for entertainment purposes only and not to be taken seriously -All content posted is fictitious and novelty purposes only AKA - Mentalflex

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turbobusa Super Moderator - RIP Offline Posts: 3,442 Join Date: Nov 2012	03-23-2013, 10:50 AM Pretty much my thoughts too AA. I'd be watchful IB if you add any drol /eq or other aas(all do just some more than others) known to cause RBC to jump up. Bp will start tomrise generally when that occurs. My own rbc got up to about 20 in 2011. I was one big ole vascular walking headache. Good way to fuck up kidneys, eyes, heart etc. Blood clots become a real concern with thick blood. Maldorff over at pm has really good knowledge /insight in that area. Otherwise most of your numbers can be attributed to intense traing and higher protein intake. Stay healthy bro. What would do around here without our jokester?, T.............. LIKE - AnaSCI Facebook SUBSCRIBE - AnaSCI YouTube SYNTHETEK - Best hardcore bodybuilding products STERILESYRINGES.COM - Get your Needles and Syringes from here DISCUSSWORLDISSUES.COM - Socio-economic and political free speech HOW TO DO INJECTIONS - Full Pictorial Injection Guide PURE SUPPLEMENT POWDERS - All lab certified

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FordFan Registered User Offline Posts: 988 Join Date: Nov 2012	03-24-2013, 07:32 PM How long has the Sasquatch been on that cycle? How long is the planned cycle for? Keep that bad boy healthy!

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Daveyjones Registered User Offline Posts: 180 Join Date: Feb 2013	03-24-2013, 11:59 PM Alt and ast are really the main things to look at in the hospital i intern at. if those are in range and the other stuff is not way high or low then u should be good. Last edited by Daveyjones; 03-25-2013 at 12:02 AM.

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Daveyjones Registered User Offline Posts: 180 Join Date: Feb 2013	03-25-2013, 04:41 PM No If its from 0-40 and u Are 39 then ur fine, it's high normal but again ur in range and considering ur on aas that's actually pretty good. If u could black out ur name and post the actual differentials I might be of more help, all the same I'm just a upper class man pre med student who has taken a specific interest in endocrinology we are known for looking for the zebra and not the horse. I did talk to the medical director today though about liver function test and he said those things can fluctuate greatly depending on a variety of things it's when u Start to consistently test high or low in things is when u should worry

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Ironbuilt Banned Offline Posts: 8,353 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Mûnich , Germany	03-25-2013, 08:19 PM Let me get my house girl to post ..what pisses me off the ranges fluctuate from lab to lab!. So how's.the zebra gonna find the horse..?

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Daveyjones Registered User Offline Posts: 180 Join Date: Feb 2013	03-25-2013, 08:43 PM It means that as upperclassman undergrads we are learning about things that are uncommon things that a full fleged doctor would keep in the back of their head hence the "zebra" where as doctors and upper level med students are learning/know about more common things hence the "horse" basically it means that a doctor would diagnose some one with a soar throat and swollen lymph nodes with strep (horse) before stage 2 lymphoma (zebra) (of course more goes into a diagnosis then just those symptoms) the saying goes look for horses before zebras Last edited by Daveyjones; 03-25-2013 at 08:46 PM.

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Jim550 Registered User Offline Posts: 489 Join Date: Oct 2012	03-25-2013, 08:44 PM looks fine, nothing to worry about imo

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MR. BMJ AnaSCI VIP / Donating Member Online Posts: 1,592 Join Date: Sep 2006	03-28-2013, 01:38 AM Those values look good, i'd not stress yourself out on them.

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Ironbuilt Banned Offline Posts: 8,353 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Mûnich , Germany	03-28-2013, 03:52 AM Ok.thanks . I wasn't too stressed I'm just a person maybe ocd or something that I want ever thing perfect.if its not I change as need be. Appreciate the info thread is closed