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First Cycle (in years that is) - 01-15-2014, 06:55 PM

Gonna start up a cycle soon

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Lifter for 25 years
6ft 205 lbs @ 12% BF

Prone to gyno(moderate)

Gonna run 500mgs of Test E for 12 weeks
30 -60(undecided) Anavar. Not sure what part of cycle or entire length.

Had success w/ both in past.

Would like input on Anti-E/Anti gyno therapy during cycle as well as PCT.

THANKS.
   
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01-15-2014, 07:15 PM

I would run the Var at 60mg/ day if you are only running it and 500mg of test/week.

Normally with this cycle I wouldn't even run an anti- but since you said you are prone to gyno I would run about 5-10mg of Aromasin/exemestane per day. I would run that through your pct. For pct run Clomid and Nolvadex 3 weeks after your last shot and can also take some hcg towards the end of the cycle but that's not really a must with this cycle in my opinion.
   
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01-15-2014, 11:47 PM

Get enough aromasin to run from beginning of cycle all the way to the end of pct, start at a half a dose every other day nd see how thay does for you, get enough clomid (pct) for 4 weeks use, do some more reasearch to find out different doses guys are running, but run the pct something like this sense this is a mild run.
First week
Day 1. 150Mg
2-7 100mg
Week 2. 75Mg
Week 3. 50Mg
Week 4. 50Mg
This is close to what you should need, im sure others will chime in...
   
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Get enough aromasin to run from beginning of cycle all the way to the end of pct, start at a half a dose every other day nd see how thay does for you, get enough clomid (pct) for 4 weeks use, do some more reasearch to find out different doses guys are running, but run the pct something like this sense this is a mild run.
First week
Day 1. 150Mg
2-7 100mg
Week 2. 75Mg
Week 3. 50Mg
Week 4. 50Mg
This is close to what you should need, im sure others will chime in...
Dosing Clomid that high is unnecessary and will only give more side-effects.

I'd run it for 6 weeks like this: 50/50/50/25/25/25. Even four weeks could be enough.
   
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01-16-2014, 12:44 PM

Ranger, Sounds like a good plan.
@12% BF the var should really tighten you up even more.
   
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So, just got back from the butt-doc, and I have some prostate issues.

Tone to be exact, which is the shape as well as some inflammation and boggyness.

This concerns me. I do not want to further accelerate any prostate issue and am fearful the test will do that.

So, I need some alternative courses of action. Suggestions?

I'll be keeping the Anavar.
   
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So, just got back from the butt-doc, and I have some prostate issues.

Tone to be exact, which is the shape as well as some inflammation and boggyness.

This concerns me. I do not want to further accelerate any prostate issue and am fearful the test will do that.

So, I need some alternative courses of action. Suggestions?

I'll be keeping the Anavar.
Odds are that every steroid will accelerate possible prostate issues.

You could try SARMs like Ostarine or Andarine.

Or you could run test at TRT dose (150-250mg/week) and use not-so-androgenic compounds with it (nandrolone? equipoise? primobolan? anavar?).

Or you could just continue natty.

This is risky business.
   
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Odds are that every steroid will accelerate possible prostate issues.

You could try SARMs like Ostarine or Andarine.

Or you could run test at TRT dose (150-250mg/week) and use not-so-androgenic compounds with it (nandrolone? equipoise? primobolan? anavar?).

Or you could just continue natty.

This is risky business.
I wanted to add that peptides or GHG would be safe options for prostate too. And I think running legit peptides, HGH and SARMS would yield results similar to some steroid cycles - with less sides and positive effects of steroids and peptides. That could get costly though.
   
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Gonna start up a cycle soon

Stats:
40
Lifter for 25 years
6ft 205 lbs @ 12% BF

Prone to gyno(moderate)

Gonna run 500mgs of Test E for 12 weeks
30 -60(undecided) Anavar. Not sure what part of cycle or entire length.

Had success w/ both in past.

Would like input on Anti-E/Anti gyno therapy during cycle as well as PCT.

THANKS.
If your gyno prone I would use a small dose AI from day one to prevent any problems,,,dont wait until they happen.
   
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01-18-2014, 09:54 PM

Ashop knows whats up
   
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01-19-2014, 04:56 AM

Use low dose 10-15 mg cialis daily and shrink the prosser so you got full flow..avoid masteron ...saw palmetto extract is good 85% extract 320mg daily..sex or choken the chicken daily helps too...
   
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