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Need advice on tren-e and winny - 02-03-2014, 05:10 AM

Not to take together but I was planning on ordering tren-e and winny The tren-e is 100 mg per ml. How would u does that to equal 50 mg per day or would I need to run tren-a with it? If so how much?

I was going to try out se winny in a cutting cycle. Never tried it before. I read that it makes u prone to injury. Is it a waste of money or what's your take on it?
   
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If im reading the first question right your wanting to run aprox 350 mg of tren e per week 7 x 50mg= 350mg. I would bump it to 400mg for simple math and do 2 -2cc shots a week to get your 400mg..
Far as winny making you prone to injury it dries you out and makes your strength go thru the roof wich is why it works well for cutting personally i love winny just have to warm up really good to avoid injuries. Site inject lagging muscle groups with 50mg a day and i bet youll be happy with the results. Just my 2 pennies brother.


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If im reading the first question right your wanting to run aprox 350 mg of tren e per week 7 x 50mg= 350mg. I would bump it to 400mg for simple math and do 2 -2cc shots a week to get your 400mg..
Far as winny making you prone to injury it dries you out and makes your strength go thru the roof wich is why it works well for cutting personally i love winny just have to warm up really good to avoid injuries. Site inject lagging muscle groups with 50mg a day and i bet youll be happy with the results. Just my 2 pennies brother.



Good advice. I have a love hate relationship with Winny. I love the strength and feel of it but I've gotta run DECA at 50-100mg a week while on it. Helps out the joints. But warming up is sound advice while on Winny. Tren and Winny make a fine couple though.
   
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Good advice. I have a love hate relationship with Winny. I love the strength and feel of it but I've gotta run DECA at 50-100mg a week while on it. Helps out the joints. But warming up is sound advice while on Winny. Tren and Winny make a fine couple though.
I cant stand the way Winny makes my joints and tendons feel but the look if your lean enough is amazing!
   
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Adam have you run tren before?
   
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If not go with tren a just in case sides are to much for you, you can stop and it'll be out quick.
   
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If it is 100 mg/ ml and you wish to do 50mg / ml that would be 1/2 CC on a 25 g 3cc pin. (1ml = 1cc) or did I misunderstand the question ?
   
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I think tren and winny are great in a cutting cycle.
   
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If this is your first time with tren i'd highly recommend the Acetate ester, faster in/ faster out just incase you can't handle the sides, they can be pretty nasty for some people
   
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02-06-2014, 03:12 PM

I dont mean this in a negative way but if you can't do the math involved in planning a steroid cycle (100/2) you should do more research and decide if trenbolone is something you can handle.

Tren and winny will get you shredded but I think it's bit lazy unless youre a bodybuilder in precontest. If I'm going to run harsh chemicals I'm going to do it to add mass. Losing body fat is not nearly as hard. Adding testosterone or dbol to tren instead of winstrol will give you better LBM gains.


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No I love tren, just hate jabbing everyday. I usually run tren-a at 50 mg ed I may go a tad higher in the future. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day. I was asking about the winny bc I've never done it. I have a bottle of Clen and didn't know if I should even bother with winny but I may give it a shot
   
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I myself would jab 200mg tren e twice a week. That will be a lil over what you want but easy to measure. And as for the winny just send it my way. Lol
   
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No I love tren, just hate jabbing everyday. I usually run tren-a at 50 mg ed I may go a tad higher in the future. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day. I was asking about the winny bc I've never done it. I have a bottle of Clen and didn't know if I should even bother with winny but I may give it a shot
Ah yea. The tren-e will be a little less potent since its e instead of a. Like others have said, tren-e 200 twice per week is good to go

Some people just can't handle the tren and I think it requires expert care. There are reports about tren causing Terrors

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[QUOTE=Adam_david;220848]No I love tren, just hate jabbing everyday. I usually run tren-a at 50 mg ed I may go a tad higher in the future. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day. I was asking about the winny bc I've never done it. I have a bottle of Clen and didn't know if I should even bother with winny but I may give it a try.

What is the mg/ml of the tren e you have. ? Tren e is nots daily pin . Not to be rude but you need to read up on ester lengths and what that means and how your serum level of a certain hormone depletes over time.. Go with test cyp 100mg per week as your first cycle. Tren is not for beginners.
   
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No I love tren, just hate jabbing everyday. I usually run tren-a at 50 mg ed I may go a tad higher in the future. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day. I was asking about the winny bc I've never done it. I have a bottle of Clen and didn't know if I should even bother with winny but I may give it a shot
If you were running Tren a at 50 mg Ed that's 350 ew. Tren e is a little less potent but it builds in your system rather rather than releasing fast like a. 400 ew is easy to measure but to be on the safe side you may want to start at 300. 150 2 x ew and see how you tolerate the sides before making the plunge just my .02
   
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Jim u answered wrong also.. he's asking this..

. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day.

Someone post chart how esters per compound drop over time. D2 where u at .lol
   
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02-07-2014, 05:23 PM

I'm just going to copy and paste from basskiller online. I hope he doesn't mind

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Here is the ester weights:
Testosterone (no ester) = C19 H28 O2 = 288.4mg = 100mg
Acetate = C2 H2 O = 42.1mg = 87.26mg
Propionate = C3 H4 O = 56.1mg = 83.72mg
Enanthate = C7 H12 O = 112.2mg = 71.99mg
Cypionate = C8 H4 O = 124.2mg = 69.90mg
Decanoate = C10 H18 O = 154.3mg = 65.15mg

So basically this means
1g of test everyweek is really 1 gram of test
1g of pro everyweek is really = 830mgs test
1g of enanthate every week is = 710 mgs test
1g of cypionate every week is = 690 mgs of test


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02-07-2014, 05:33 PM

100mg of test-e = 82mg test-ace

trenbolone is a little lighter then testosterone so the ester weight will make a a little bit more of a difference than with testosterone but i dont feel like doing the math to find the exact number.


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Jim u answered wrong also.. he's asking this..

. But what I'm asking is since tren-e is a long ester, how much of that should I take to equal 50 mg released a day.

Someone post chart how esters per compound drop over time. D2 where u at .lol
I get you here but the op needs to keep in mind everyone metabolizes compounds different. No one can say for sure what is going to give you the release of 50 mg ed. We can only get close
   
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If your talking about how much you would have to take to maintain 50 mg a day steady than this may help.Steroid Calculator
   
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