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Gear and the Immune System - 06-04-2014, 12:35 PM

So ive read many a thread claiming that high levels of test stimulates the immune system. Some claim thats why many people do not get sick while on cycle.

Now i am seeing threads saying that say high levels of test actually depress the immune system raising the chances for cancer and disease etc.

So which one is it?
   
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What's up AM. I can only speak from experience. When on test I do not get Ill hardly ever. When I'm on No test I get sick more often. And I notice things like skin tags and shit grow faster while on. My 2˘
   
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Yeah me too
   
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Yes if only I could reach my back to shave it seems like when I'm on... The hair keeps sprouting but when I'm off its not as bad.
   
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Yes if only I could reach my back to shave it seems like when I'm on... The hair keeps sprouting but when I'm off its not as bad.
Yes usually I shave 1x a day. While on I need to shave 2x a day. (My back) ;-)
   
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I found this. Interesting. http://med.stanford.edu/ism/2013/dec...tosterone.html
   
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06-04-2014, 02:14 PM

Hey guys, not sure where you're getting your information.

High levels of almost all these hormones depress your immune system. This includes testosterone.
   
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Hey guys, not sure where you're getting your information.

High levels of almost all these hormones depress your immune system. This includes testosterone.
I was referring to body hair/skin tag growth. Personal experience I've noticed I'm not as sick as often as when I'm off either. KEY WORDS "personal "
   
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You guys get skin tags? That's gross man
   
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You guys get skin tags? That's gross man
Yep, I'm about to cut one of those bitches off too. There is a whole thread on PM about them. But from all the articles I've read they all seem to point to high levels of test as immunosuppressive. But a lot of the studies are on Birds.....
I guess moderate doses are always the best route for health.
   
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06-04-2014, 03:37 PM

I had a skin tag on an eyelid for years. Most of those years I wasn't on anything either.

I just had a dermatologist cut it off a few months ago. I used to cut it myself but it always grew back cause I never got the whole thing.

So far nothing has come back.
   
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I had a skin tag on an eyelid for years. Most of those years I wasn't on anything either.

I just had a dermatologist cut it off a few months ago. I used to cut it myself but it always grew back cause I never got the whole thing.

So far nothing has come back.
Man that is just filthy
   
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man that is just filthy
lol
   
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06-04-2014, 04:28 PM

Hey AM, found this article as well:
The effects of anabolic steroids and st... [Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1989] - PubMed - NCBI

The effects of anabolic steroids and strength training on the human immune response.

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The immune response was assessed in 13 competitive bodybuilders self-administering anabolic-androgenic steroids and ten competitive bodybuilders not administering these drugs...blah blah blah... These studies indicate that 1) anabolic-androgenic steroid use as practiced by contemporary athletes is a potent modulator of immune responsiveness and 2) autoantibodies are prevalent in strength-trained men even in the absence of anabolic steroid use.
   
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Man that is just filthy
Dude, it's just a skin tag. lol
   
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06-04-2014, 06:53 PM

personally I get a cold EVERY cycle. Might be a coincidence I suppose
   
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Seems like I get a cold about 2-3 weeks in. Then it goes away
   
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