How does EQ mess with your bloods aside from the hematocrit? I can't imagine it even messing with your hematocrit at all if you are donating blood every 6 weeks and using 600-700/week. I agree it's not the healthiest thing, but I think it's definetly waaaaay better than tren,etc. as long as you donate blood and are responsible
You're right though, it is crap for mass gains, but there is a special synergy that occurs between nandrolone/boldenone when used at the same time IMO. However, it is unnecessary to use, which is exactly why I said "maybe 600 eq here and there", hah.
As you stated, I believe testosterone/nandrolone only is the best way to go; testosterone only being healthier obviously(but since the average recreational user will most likely want to add a second compound - nandrolone should be the one of choice).
I agree with you that perhaps bloodwork will not show that tren is doing anything, especially at 300-400 a week, but I am a firm believer that it is messing up your insides, and most people(key word: MOST) will pay for it one day if it's used consistently (and by consistent, I mean even once-twice a year for 8-12 weeks). I'm part of the group of people that believe it will induce heart problems, even if these problems aren't apparent until years and years down the road. I don't feel like explaining why, but I'll just say there is way too much anecdotal evidence across tons of board of people that got the same exact heart problems after cycling on and off tren for years(I'm talking 32-38 year old guys that weren't using much besides test/tren....). Also, my irl friend went to the ER *TWICE* while using tren. You would think he would learn the first time @ 700/week, but he thought it was just from other factors. He was fine for a long time, then as soon as he tried tren again @ 300/week, it happened again. Most likely messed up with his kidney function and he was in critical condition from hypovolemia,electrolyte imbalances,and a slew of other issues.
I don't mean to scare people with these stories, because the reality is there are also lots of people taking 1-2g tren that have never experienced any issues. We are all quite different, but that is why I said I believe the majority of people should stay the heck away from that drug......anyways this is all just my opinion(even though it's based on concrete facts). I do like what one well known pro bodybuilder said though: You can use tren to bulk, but have test/deca be the main drugs, and just use tren @ 175 per week to help with better nutrient partitioning,help stay a bit more lean and keep water off,and just get some mild effects from it. I have a feeling even 175-200 REAL tren a week would be a good addition to a serious persons heavy test/deca cycle. Regardless, I don't think a recreational user should be using it at all, even if the doses are that low.
Back to the topic:
I also disagree that insulin is okay to use, but to each their own haha.
Yea, GH at 3-6iu pharm grade should be ok...meh....idk....I wouldn't if recreational user personally =/
Agreed orals are awful