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Excellent information LS.
thanks for the informations
Neither of those are technically pro hormones. Anavar is a well studied steroid that has been prescribed by doctors for many decades.
Superdrol is sometimes still referred to as a prohormone because it was labeled and sold as a prohormone in order to exploit a loophole in US law. This loophole was later closed which rendered superdrol illegal. But make no mistake, Superdrol is most definitely a steroid. It was actually developed as an anabolic steroid in the 60's by a pharmaceutical research team, but was never brought to market as a prescribed medication so it never made it into the legislation that made AAS controlled substances in the 80's. It was resurrected by an enterprising young man in the early 2000's and sold over the counter legally for a few years until the FDA figured out what it was.
If you're going to use either of these substances, which you probably should not, you need to use Testosterone as the base of your cycle in order to maintain proper sexual functioning as well as several other reasons. Also, 2 orals at the same time is usually not recommended. And since one of those orals you're asking about is Superdrol, which is known to be highly hepatotoxic, I would say that under no circumstances should not be using both of those substances together.
Go to the top of this forum and start reading the stickies there. After you've read through all of them twice, do it again. At that point, post a thread with your stats, training history and current diet setup and get some help getting that part straight. Once you've lined those things out, then start asking questions about AAS and the guys here will be more than happy to help you out.
If you're using one oral that is known to be highly liver toxic, causing jaundice in just a few days for some people, why would you mix any other oral with it? I prefer to err on the side of caution, especially when it comes to my long term health. If it's your cycle and you want to add fuel to the fire, by all means, please do. But in an open public forum, I feel like it's irresponsible to suggest that someone you don't know should do the same.
And Tren isn't 17 alpha alkylated, so it has no need to be processed in the liver, which means it's non toxic in the liver. Not that it's a perfectly safe compound, but it should have no effect on the liver. I've had bloodwork done while using Tren, and my liver values were perfectly within range.
You're failing to comprehend what I'm saying; so perhaps I need to spell it out very slowly. I'm not saying that Anavar is rough on the liver at all. On the contrary, I've said many times in many threads that the research proves Anavar is probably one of the safest, least hepatotoxic orals on the market. But even if it's the least liver toxic oral available, it does still cause some level of liver toxicity.
The inclusion of Superdrol is what concerns me. Superdrol is known to be highly hepatotoxic when run by itself. It puts a severe strain on the liver and the rest of the body as well. Hence the common feeling of lethargy and just generally feeling like complete shit while on Superdrol. So even if Anavar is safe by itself, if it's added on top of a highly liver toxic compound like Superdrol, it will still add additional, unnecessary stress on your liver, which is already under a severe amount of stress from processing the Superdrol. Adding more stress to an already stressed organ just isn't a smart idea.
So just a quick summary.
Anavar=not bad by itself
Superdrol=really bad by itself
Superdrol+Anavar(or any other oral)=just a little bit worse than really bad
It's pretty basic math, no matter how you work it.
Right, and what I'm saying is I don't see how adding anavar to superdrol is any worse than adding anything else like tren/npp/etc. to superdrol.
Because Tren and NPP and other injectables aren't methylated. The methyl group/17aa in most orals allows them to survive first pass metabolization in the liver. It's that methyl group that causes the liver toxicity. Without the methyl group, injectables like Tren and NPP can be metabolized in the blood stream, which means they aren't liver toxic. :banghead:
Ok, it just became obvious to me that you're being intentionally obtuse. I'm bored with getting trolled, so I'm through with you and this thread.