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Lol, powerlifting sounds like waaaaay more fun than bodybuilding!


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9 out of 10 guys would not make it through the 1 week,
If they can even make it through breakfast on day 1


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9 out of 10 guys would not make it through the 1 week,
If they can even make it through breakfast on day 1
Shit, I eat that much and I'd be ready to hibernate not hit the weights


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The thing that gets me is similar to what psyche and others have alluded to and that is the discomfort. When I was messing around with 3 grams total I could hardly train. Head aches, back pumps, cramping and the inability to bend over. Shit even breathing was hard work. Now, maybe these guys had all the meds to counteract high BP and water retention, but I did not. And that was eating 70% clean.

I could hardly squat or deadlift without some issue coming up. Now, I am convinced that it is more about training than the rx. I can train harder and without injury on lower amounts of gear and still get good gains. I also like to point out that the guys in the 80's were as strong as today and not doing half the shit. Drugs are becoming a crutch for many.

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This is so true. It's finding that balance of the right dose you can tolerate while maintaining and efficient and we'll functioning body. Absolutely no point runner mg 3 grams of gear and 15ius gh if you can't get out of bed or get winded on 5 stairs. I've found I achieve very similar results on trt and 20mgs superdrol for 4 weeks than 12 weeks of moderately dosed test/tren/npp. Now I'm not saying I feel great on sdrol, but it's only about the last week and on time is cut considerably. As I get older, shorter cycles are becoming more and more appealing, plus I love how I feel when I cruise.

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The thing that gets me is similar to what psyche and others have alluded to and that is the discomfort. When I was messing around with 3 grams total I could hardly train. Head aches, back pumps, cramping and the inability to bend over. Shit even breathing was hard work. Now, maybe these guys had all the meds to counteract high BP and water retention, but I did not. And that was eating 70% clean.

I could hardly squat or deadlift without some issue coming up. Now, I am convinced that it is more about training than the rx. I can train harder and without injury on lower amounts of gear and still get good gains. I also like to point out that the guys in the 80's were as strong as today and not doing half the shit. Drugs are becoming a crutch for many.

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This is so true. It's finding that balance of the right dose you can tolerate while maintaining and efficient and we'll functioning body. Absolutely no point runner mg 3 grams of gear and 15ius gh if you can't get out of bed or get winded on 5 stairs. I've found I achieve very similar results on trt and 20mgs superdrol for 4 weeks than 12 weeks of moderately dosed test/tren/npp. Now I'm not saying I feel great on sdrol, but it's only about the last week and on time is cut considerably. As I get older, shorter cycles are becoming more and more appealing, plus I love how I feel when I cruise.
Yeah, it's funny to wonder what my gains would have been if I had my current philosophy back 5 or 6 years ago when I was counting grams instead of milligrams. I do agree that the more you take the more you grow, but there is a point of diminishing returns and poor health and body function. Like you and some others I no longer enjoy using tren and find a npp/sdrol cycle to be as effective and if nothing else a very tolerable cycle. I only use tren for peaking and just enough for aggression. I dropped it two weeks out so I could start sleeping again.

I also feel that lower T and higher clean Rx is better than the old school 2 times the test plan. Also, most know I run GH, but even that messes with my electrolyte balance to the point where I dropped that out as well and lost 7 lbs. I can know achieve hydration and not feel a constant thirst and bloat all day long. Which is also good for training and competition. Will I jump back on? Hell yeah cuz I'm old and need it to make the gains I desire, but understanding how it effects me is equally as important when it comes to looking and performing at my best.

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Listening to it now. Just a fast way to get fat and unhealthy. It would make for an interesting log though!
   
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Just a fast way to get fat and unhealthy.
thats what i thought when listening to it??


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Bumping for those that have never seen this video..LOL!
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If you liked the vid here is JMs Instagram. There’s a couple of posts in there about what he’s eating to gain 40 pounds and then to diet back down.

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Sorry I thought it was in here. The guy on the pl watch is who gave Dave that diet in the video. Jm Blakely.
   
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Great video! I've said for years the number #1 mistake I SEE is guys make is not eating enough when trying to put on size.
   
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I saw this when it first came out. Olive oil drenched pizza... Uggggggh lol
   
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