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turbobusa

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Tren is great metabolic elavator. Go through glygogen stores more quickly on tren. I get get that same Dazed and confused low blood sugar stuff Pop54 mentioned. be a great little cycle if tren is as potent as the old fina jet/ject.
Pretty doubtful though. Original hoeusht rousell ace was 30mgs.Using 100mg day of the jet or ject would have been really stout. I see some of the ten dosages guys report today and the results and know that it's not as potent with maybe the exception of plix conversion
Some guys can use prami . I can not. My sides from prami are worse than tren sides. Too bad as it does a great job on the prolactin. Not a good one for those trying to avoid vices(ie getting some strange etc). I am ok with dost/caber though I do think prami is the hammer as far as prolactin elimination or controll. Funny pop54 mentioning lower T higher tren . We "accidently did that in the 80's and it worked really well. Had we had access to dost or prami it would have been really good. Did have access to bromo then but really most guys did not know shit about prolactin back then.
I want to mention highly androgenic compounds are not a great idea
if your shoulder injury is not really healed well. Very easy to fuck up recent injuries worse when having some flashes of pissed the fuck off while training.
Oh yeah pretty much total right shoulder reconstruction in about 6 hrs for me today. Good luck which you won't need with good research. Thanks , T
 

Populus54

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Tren is great metabolic elavator. Go through glygogen stores more quickly on tren. I get get that same Dazed and confused low blood sugar stuff Pop54 mentioned. be a great little cycle if tren is as potent as the old fina jet/ject.
Pretty doubtful though. Original hoeusht rousell ace was 30mgs.Using 100mg day of the jet or ject would have been really stout. I see some of the ten dosages guys report today and the results and know that it's not as potent with maybe the exception of plix conversion
Some guys can use prami . I can not. My sides from prami are worse than tren sides. Too bad as it does a great job on the prolactin. Not a good one for those trying to avoid vices(ie getting some strange etc). I am ok with dost/caber though I do think prami is the hammer as far as prolactin elimination or controll. Funny pop54 mentioning lower T higher tren . We "accidently did that in the 80's and it worked really well. Had we had access to dost or prami it would have been really good. Did have access to bromo then but really most guys did not know shit about prolactin back then.
I want to mention highly androgenic compounds are not a great idea
if your shoulder injury is not really healed well. Very easy to fuck up recent injuries worse when having some flashes of pissed the fuck off while training.
Oh yeah pretty much total right shoulder reconstruction in about 6 hrs for me today. Good luck which you won't need with good research. Thanks , T

Shit buddy shoulder surgery today. I hope you get back to it soon.
 

bigpoppie

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Ok 2 weeks into my cycle. I ended up doing 75mg ace and about 40mg prop every day with t3 and prami. The injections are fine if I take my time. Couple hours later I get pip. The problem I'm having is the lumps it creates below the skin. Smaller than a golf ball. I can still feel the first one. I'm only pinning glutes and delts so not much time to heal in between. I move to one side or another each time to not pin the exact same spot. I'm gonna try pinning my tricep today.
The bigger problem I'm having is this pin from Wednesday looks to be turning into cellulitis (spelling?) Slightly raised, red, and warm to the touch. My girl outlined it in pen last night. I'll see if it grows. Hopefully it will go away without anti biotics.
 

Big-John

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Def keep and eye on it if its red and warm.. The others I would not worry about. That happens.. I have have found if I warm my gear up with a hair dryer and inject slow and even let the needle set in for a few extra seconds then I don't get any knots.
 

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Ok 2 weeks into my cycle. I ended up doing 75mg ace and about 40mg prop every day with t3 and prami. The injections are fine if I take my time. Couple hours later I get pip. The problem I'm having is the lumps it creates below the skin. Smaller than a golf ball. I can still feel the first one. I'm only pinning glutes and delts so not much time to heal in between. I move to one side or another each time to not pin the exact same spot. I'm gonna try pinning my tricep today.
The bigger problem I'm having is this pin from Wednesday looks to be turning into cellulitis (spelling?) Slightly raised, red, and warm to the touch. My girl outlined it in pen last night. I'll see if it grows. Hopefully it will go away without anti biotics.

Id go with pec over tricep...you are asking for pain in your tri's especially w/ prop...you have at least 4 places in each pec you can go with...

Maybe pin daily so its less compound in each
 

bigpoppie

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Id go with pec over tricep...you are asking for pain in your tri's especially w/ prop...you have at least 4 places in each pec you can go with...

Maybe pin daily so its less compound in each

Already doing everyday.
I have some cipro (anti biotic)I just started taking but it is not the best option for this. Amoxicillian is best choice. I remember a wwebsite I saw through a forum that had a large selection of prescription meds. I have no idea what it was. Anybody know where I can get some? It may go away on its own but I need to get something here asap just in case.
Lesson of the day...always have pct AND antibiotics on hand before starting gear
Thanks for the help fellas.
 

bigpoppie

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Update...now the other glute looks like the same thing is forming. This was pinned the day after the other. Getting worried now.
I pinned my pec tonight. See how that looks in a couple days.
On a brighter note I forgot to mention how incredible my sex drive is. Dont know if its the prami or the tren but its like the terminator in porn:headbang:
 

bigpoppie

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Ok 3 weeks in raised knots went away. Have been seeing progression in all areas: strength, fat loss, hardness, size, sense of well being. I did come back from a 3 month hiatus though due to muscle tear in left shoulder. I can tell its kicking in, just hoping for the crazy strength everyone speaks of.
The shit burns though going in and for couple days. The knots take several days to dissapate. Today I left my gear in my car. Drew into syringe like water, went in easy and didn't feel a thing. See if I get as much pip or as big a knot.
Thanks for the hair dryer idea big.
 

Populus54

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Why are you not pinning your quads. You're pinning the same area too much. You gotta come up with a better rotation. There's really only one spot on your glutes to pin. Middle of the upper check.
 

bigpoppie

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Been rotating delts, pecks, & glutes. I was warming with a hair dryer but was a pain in the ass, no pun intended, and it wasn't really helping anyway. I was thinking it might be too warm, turned out not warm enough. I gotta come up with a set amount of time through trial and error.

Populous...why do you say only one spot in the glutes? I move around up left and right and haven't found any prob lems. Got two spots on pecks. I have never done quads do to the horror stories.

Thanks fellas
 

Populus54

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Because there is only one spot in the glutes otherwise you risk hitting your sciatic nerve. Upper middle if your cheek. The quads have more spots. Deltoid a have a few. And I have never pushed oils in my pecs sounds painful but what do I know I never tried it. If you got a good rotation my next thought is the gear doesn't have enough BB in it and it's crystallizing in your muscle causing knots. Sometimes with short esters if it's too concentrated it will do that. That's a guess.
 

Populus54

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I use my quads quite a bit. If the gear is mixed well it shouldn't be a problem. I know pinning your cheeks too often can eventually get to be a problem.
 

bigpoppie

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As far as progress the strength is coming along nicely. I don't have the appetite I always did though. Usually need to force myself to eat.the strength is coming regardless. Coming up on 4 weeks. I think I'm gonna throw in 20-30mg m1t for some size till the end.
The hair dryer was a pain in the ass. Think ill just leave the gear in my car ; )
 

bigpoppie

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Ok fellas I need some help.
I have absolutly NO appetite what's so ever. Dont even crave water. Now last couple days I've been nauseous and feeling anxiety. I fought throwing up all night but by morning a blew out what little bit I had.
Is this normal on tren? Been doin about 100mg a day lately. No sides at 75.
Please enlighten me.
Thanx
 

BigBob

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Are these symptoms from tren though? 525mg sides were minimal which is why I upped it. I am back to the 525 now. Not eating is killing my gains.

Dude, You said you had minimal sides. Thats great! Minimal sides and gains are where its at brotha. bring it back down a bit youll enjoy the ride.