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HCG vs HMG

anzel

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Has anyone tried HMG and if so how was it compared to HCG?

Is it better to run both at the same time or to just run HMG alone?

Also how about the dosing for HMG thru out a cycle?
 

Phoe2006

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Hmg I've never ran personally but now of people who have that use in conjunction with hcg after moderate to heavy use to get there spouse or gf pregnant. Here's a brief description I pulled off the internet. I'm no guru so this is a better way to explain it.

Hcg

human chorionic gonadotropin(hCG) is a*hormone*produced by the syncytiotrophoblast, a component of the fertilized egg, after*conception.

Anabolic steroid adjunct

In the world of performance-enhancing drugs, HCG is increasingly used in combination with various(AAS) cycles. As a result, HCG is included in some sports' illegal drug lists.

When exogenous AAS are put into the male body, natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down its own production of testosterone via shutdown of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPga). This causes testicular atrophy, among other things. HCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.

High levels of AASs, that mimic the body's natural testosterone, trigger the hypothalamus*to shut down its production of gonadtropin*releasing hormone(GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland*stops releasing lutenizing*hormone(LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone. In males, HCG helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes by mimicking LH and triggering the production and release of testosterone.

If HCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone would eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary gland.

Hmg

Menotropin*(also called*human menopausal gonadotropin*or*hMG) is a*hormonally*active medication for the treatment of*fertility disturbances. Frequently the plural is used as the medication is a mixture of*ginatropins. Menotropins are extracted from the urine of post menopausal women.

The following was taken from elitefitness.com

http://bodybuilding.elitefitness.com/hmg-human-menopausal-gonadotropin

HMG - Human Menopausal Gonadotropin - Even Better than HCG for Post Anabolic Steroid Cycle Therapy

Tags:Anabolic Steroids*HCG*HMG*Human Menopausal Gonadotropin

Dear Friend and Fellow Athlete,

In today's EliteFitness.com News, we'll examine how*HMG aka Human Menopausal gonadtropin differs from HCG and why it may be a better alternative to this mainstay of post cycle therapy.

Post Cycle Therapy or PCT for short is a must after you have finished a steroid cycle. If you want to keep the strength and muscle gains you worked so hard for when you were on the juice, you need to help return your own body's hormonal levels back to normal - or all you hard work will be wasted. Many great PCT protocols have been outlined over the years, and many individuals have had success following them. Nevertheless, what works can always work better.

A couple months ago, we profiled*HCG (Human Chorionic* Gonadotropin) in an article titled, "HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Use After Anabolic Steroid Cycles for Bodybuilding" this article discussed how HCG is one of the most effective ways to recover from an anabolic steroid cycle. The article addressed the misunderstanding and misuse of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) and shows you the most efficient way to use*HCG for the fastest and most complete recovery.

Today, we'll look at how*HMG aka*Human Menopausal gonadtropin*differs from HCG and why it may be a better alternative to this mainstay of post cycle therapy.

For years, bodybuilders used HCG to kick-start their HPTA after a cycle.* There’s still a lot of debate as to how it should be used, but for simplicities sake it’s fair to say it should be administered once the testes show sign of atrophy.* This makes sense since, contrary to popular belief,**HCG (and HMG) do not “cure” or “recover” anything.* They do not return testosterone levels permanently and they do not assure that production will return to normal.* They simply give a temporary boost that can be extremely helpful when one’s hormonal system is suppressed and attempted to return to normal.* It’s a little bit of a “head start” on recovery, but at some point, the body must produce hormones all on its own – otherwise, it really isn’t recovery, its just substituting one drug for another.** This is why supplementation is also recommended at this time.*

Now that we’re established exactly how these drugs work, let’s examine the differences. *

The most significant disparity is in the fact that*HCG*mimics LH (luetinized hormone).* It gives the body a false signal that LH is present and everything else responds accordingly.**HMG actually elevates natural LH.* Now to some, there’s little difference, but it’s always better when the body reacts in the most natural manner.* There’s also less of a chance of building up a tolerance when this occurs.* And in the case of HCG, tolerance is developed pretty quickly.* You see, Mother Nature is pretty sharp.* You can fool her a few times but after a while, she catches on and refuses to cooperate.* That’s why excessive HCG use is not recommend.* Use too much, too often, and it won’t work at all. *

Exactly how much LESS suppressive*HMG is appears to still remain speculative.* But it’s a good guess that it’s less so.

There’s another, still empirical, opinion that*HMG*causes less of an estrogen spike.* The use of*HMG*for bodybuilding purposes is so new there’s no way of proving this one-way or the other.* Yet.* But again, it stands to reason this is so. *

One absolute difference between the two compounds is the fact that*HMG*raises FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) and HCG does not.* Again, this is due to the fact that HCG works synthetically and*HMG*stimulates the entire feedback loop.* This is especially appealing since an increase in FSH means higher sperm count and ejaculate volume. *

Dosage:*

Although*HMG*is relatively new to the steroid community there are already misconceptions surrounding its use.* People fail to realize that recommended dosages in the enclosed literature are for the original purpose of drug – that of a fertility stimulant in women.* For men’s purposes, a much lower dose is needed.** A single shot of 75 i.u.’s may be all that’s necessary.* You can even try spitting that up into two half shots over two days. Using more, will not “do more.”** It will not elevate T higher, or give you bigger balls so don’t even think about it. *

Availability:*

HMG*is quickly becoming more available in generic form. As of this writing, there are no UG labs manufacturing it.* (But that may change soon). *

Anecdotal feedback on*HMG*has been very positive.* It seems to work at least as well as*HCG*and most users feel it’s superior.* Until more is known (and prices hopefully come down) it may be best to alternate between HCG and*HMG.* This may also have an additional benefit of lessening the desensitizing effects of HCG.*

As mentioned, any LH stimulation is temporary so while you’re recovering it’s best to have every advantage. Supplements such as UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE can make the most of natural hormone production and get you on the road to recovery faster.*


HMG*and HCG may be related but it looks like*HMG*is the bigger, badder brother.* The only way of knowing if it works for you is to give it a try.
 

anzel

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Thanks, this is the same info that I have been finding, dealing with PCT. But I am asking about running it while on TRT.

Although this quote sheds a little light on what I am wondering "
Anecdotal feedback on*HMG*has been very positive.* It seems to work at least as well as*HCG*and most users feel it’s superior.* Until more is known (and prices hopefully come down) it may be best to alternate between HCG and*HMG.* This may also have an additional benefit of lessening the desensitizing effects of HCG.*
 

Phoe2006

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I just remembered Palumbo did a video on YouTube for trt clinic in Florida. Look it up Cuz he talked about running HMG instead of hcg I do believe. Search for it on YouTube and check it out
 

BIO-PEPTIDE

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HCG only mimics LH hormone while HMG is purely FSH and LH (normally 75IU each in one dose)
the problem is the price of it - its crazy high.
That is why getting pregnant is so expensive :)
 

Sully

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I think I remember from that video it was something like 1100$ so its pricey

Maybe in the US. I've priced it at online pharmacies as low as $52 for a 150IU kit. Still not exactly cheap when compared to HCG, but not ridiculous.
 

robertscott

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I've only seen it in the UK once and it cost a fortune. I forget how much but it definitely struck me as a fortune.

Interesting stuff though, sounds like it'd make for a bitching PCT
 

Ironbuilt

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Ive used both. Hmg helps sperm volume .. So if you are shooting blanks 75 iu everyday for 4 weeks can help you make ammo for a shot at makin a jr meathead if on a TRUE pct.. I do both every pct. I need all the help I can ..