Signs of Gynecomastia

[cinders]

What are the first signs of Gynecomastia and when does it normally occur? Is it after or during your course?....

I've never taken Nolvadex/Tamoxifen during or after a course before (always had some in the medicine box) and never seemed to have any problems - I definately haven't got womans breasts, I don't constantly nag and whinge and compain about things or have tendancies to go shopping...

I guess it maybe affects some people more than others?...

I'm just wondering now I've stopped my course if it's worth taking some Nolvadex for a short peroid just in case, or will that hamper my PCT time?....

Sorry about all these questions, but I just want to get things right. I'm giving myself a 2/3 month break, gonna burn fat naturally this time, then start up again, and ask for people's advice on a good cycle so I can get things right.

Thanks for all the help I've recevied so far.

Cinders.

 

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Gyno can occur either during your cycle, after your cycle, or not at all. Each person is different. As far as your PCT, you need to take either clomid or Nolvadex. The article below is from Lawnsaver. if I get time, I think Ill make it a sticky since it covers the questions that are asked so frequently.



Basic PCT doses and duration. - By Lawnsaver

The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem.

SERMs have been documented in studies, personal experience, and real world feed back to aid in restarting the HPTA

NOTE: SERMs will not work on all, so I will try and give alternatives later in the thread.

Basic Clomid PCT:
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED

Basic Nolvadex PCT:
Days 1 to 14: 40mg ED
Days 15 to 30: 20mg ED

I feel that a combo of the 2 are not needed. If the sides of Clomid are to much, use Nolvadex.

There are a few supplements I would use also to help with the lowered libido, increased SHBGs, and raised liver values

- MACA should help increase you libido
- Avena Sativa should lower SHBGs and increase free test.
- r-ALA will help repair any damage to the liver and help with glucose disposal.

There is also an alternative PCT that I personally dont recomend, but has worked for others.

Using the Herbal supplementations along with Proviron will help decrease the possible crash and increase libido. If you are one who recovers better than most, this way might be better. Although proviron can be suppressive, some can recover while using it. The HPTA will recover from time alone, so this PCT will take care of the crash symtoms and help get you though untill your HPTA recovers on it own.

NOTE: Using any of the above PCTs will not guarantee recovery. It is only a guide line to help. Everyone is different and you will need to find the best PCT to help you recover.

The only way to find out if you have truely recovered is blood work, so make sure you get the test done to find out whether the PCT you chose worked for you.

I hope this helps.

Also, please dont make this a debate...take what you want from the thread and find out what works for you!

 

[cinders]

Excellent - thanks for that, you've helped me clear something up there, I'm going to get my HCG in me first, then start my months course of Nolvadex as stated above. Thanks very much!

P.S. What is PCT?