susp will also shut you down fast as all hell.i know it does for me and counless others.i like to run 100mg/ed month on,month off while hitting hcg the months on.depending on how many days per week i'm training i do it only pre workout but have done it ed also.bloats me up faster than anything else i've tried.i really only like water based susp if it's micronized.oil tne is good too but mostly comes in 50mg/ml.that's where the 2x/ed comes in.it gets old really fast,esp if you keep clogging and repinning.