I only run 500mg or close to it because I don't really get any neg effects from that dose, and I can stay on really long cycles, I'm no super huge guy but you notice me in a crowed lol and 500mg is ALOT compared to raking nothing, also when I'd do big dose cycles aside from the side effects I never liked blowing up then shrinking, at a low dose that really doesn't happen to me, keeps my energy level high and great for libido�� and when I run var I only use 50mg a day and loooove it, this time I might go a lil higher. Oh and I plan on running some HGH for the first time ever, probly in the month, I'm super excited!!! Aside from getting bigger everyone I know personally(not on a board) says it makes them feel great! High energy, crazy libido, and for me being 39 and been lifting since I was 14, I racked up a lot of joint injuries and pain, arthritis too, and they all say it really does help with that. So despite the price I'm gonna give a shot. Oh and as far as pip since first shot, not bad, some stiffness at the site but nothing major. I want to thank everyone who replied and offered advice to my post, I really appreciate it!