Anabolic Steroids Discussion and Bodybuilding Forum


What is the difference between a cc, a ml, an I.U., a mg and a mcg?

A cc (cubic centimeter) is equal to a ml (milliliter). They measure volume. For example if a vial contains 10 ml of liquid, that is the same as 10 ccs. A mg (milligram) measures the dose of a drug, A mg is equal to 1/1000 of a gram. A mcg (microgram) is equal to 1/1000 of milligram. An IU (International Unit) is also used to measure the dose of a preparation.

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How do I open glass amps?

To break the amp neck run a DIY file at the base of the neck on all sides in a sawing fashion. About 8-10 strokes on each side should do it. Cover the neck with a small towel and snap off becareful not to spill. Some amps, like Organon sustenon UK make will snap off without a file.

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Which Steroids are best? You decide.. List to be updated.

Anabolic Steroid Size Strength Side Effects Weight Loss
Dianabol ***** ***** ***** **
Nandrolone Decanoate *** *** ** ****
Nandrolone Phenpropionate *** *** ** *
Oxandrolone * * * *
Oxymetholone ***** ***** ***** ***
Primobolan * * * **
Sostenon 250 (Sustanon 250) **** **** *** *
Stanozolol (Oral) * ** *** ****
Stanozolol (injectable) * ** ** *****
Sten *** *** **** **
Testosterone **** **** **** *

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Can I mix together deca durabolin, sustanon, primobolan, enanthate or cypionate together in one syringe and than inject them?

Yes you can mix all "oil based" steroids in one syringe and inject them if you are taking higher dosages at once.

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I have heard that if an air bubble gets in the syringe and is injected, it can kill you?

First of all, it would likely take a full three ccs of air injected right into a vein to cause a fatality. Small air bubbles injected intramuscularly in an oil solution do not pose a hazard, yet it is a good
practice to eliminate them anyway. Small air bubbles that appear in an oil solution after it is drawn into the syringe will slowly rise to the top of the syringe if held needle-side-up. This may take as long as ten minutes with some persistent tapping on the side of the case. After the air has all risen to the top of the solution, the stopper can be slightly pressed which gets rid of the air along with a tiny bit of anabolics from the syringe.

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I have finally made up my mind that I am going to try them and I was just wondering what kind of results I should expect?

This is really a tough question to answer. Results vary greatly from one person to the next. In general, steroid users find that their first cycle is the most dramatic in terms of the gains that they make. Some people claim to gain a solid thirty pounds on their first cycle while others notice little if any gains at all. Obviously, the athlete that has weight trained for a number of years, and continues to train intensely during the cycle and who eats a high calorie nutrient dense diet, stands to put on a lot more muscle than the athletes who are not disciplined enough to follow through with the whole program. It has been shown that a steroid user taking moderate dosages of Nandrolone Decanoate and Dianabol can gain twice as much muscle mass in a two month cycle than they could in an entire year of effective training. It is felt that an individual can gain a maximum of 4 pounds of muscle per year for every 100 pounds of body weight that they possess. This would translate to a 200 pound man having a maximum potential to gain 8 pounds of muscle per year, which itself would be an enormous gain. The first time steroid user can gain as much as 8 pounds per 100 pounds of body weight in a single ten week cycle. This means that the first time steroid user could gain 16 pounds of muscle injust 2 months. Their maximum potential without drugs would be 8 pounds in an entire year. It is easy to see that the steroid gains are extremely higher

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How much of the weight that is usually gained on a steroid cycle is actually solid muscle?

Most of weight gained on a steroid cycle is from retention of cellular and extra cellular fluid. This is what many Steroid users will call "water bloat". This initial water weight gain is beneficial up to a
certain point. It provides extra nutrients to the muscles and increases their ability to contract by simply giving them more area to work in. Average weight gain on a steroid cycle ranges anywhere from five to twenty pounds. Although anabolic steroids can increase the body's ability to mobilize and use fat stores, many athletes find that they go through an increase in body fat while on a bulking cycle. This is simply because they take in an excess amount of calories on an effective bulking program. This is a benefit, not a problem, at this time. Let's say our subject who gained twelve pounds determined through body composition analysis that he had put on four pounds of body fat. This leaves an eight pound increase in lean body weight. Of that eight pounds, it is very likely that only two pounds are skeletal muscle. It is known that for every one pound of skeletal muscle you put on, the body brings with it three pounds of supportive cellular and extra cellular fluid. Still, an increase of two pounds of skeletal muscle mass is a substantial gain.

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What is imortant when I want to train for size?

Studies have cleary shown that nearly all the muscular hypertrophy experienced by bodybuilders occurs in the white (fast twitch) muscle fibers. fast twitch muscle fibers are simulated by explosive, power type exercises. Slow twitch muscle fibers (red) are worked with low intensity, aerobic type training. High repetition weight training works primarily red muscle fibers; they have little capacity for hypertrophy. Long distance runners are the extreme example of athletes who have fully developed slow twitch muscles. It is clear by looking at them that this type of work does not develop much muscularity, It has been my experience that the farther you get away from high rep weight training, the more you will GROW.

Another point related to training with heavy weights relates to muscle adaptation. The entire goal of weight training is to make muscles become adaptive to the stress of weight training. This adaption doesn't occur unless the stress of each workout is beyond what the muscle can get used. Slow twitch muscle fibers adapt to stress by becoming more metabolically efficient, fast twitch muscle fibers adapt by becoming larger each time they are forced to adapt. These fast twitch fibers do not ever fully become accustomed to being blasted with heavy weights, Thus, they
will continue to adapt (grow) when they are activated by the explosive lifting of heavy weights.

Another important point in building muscle size and strength is that recovery takes time. Remember that the workout is just the beginning, repair and growth follow as much as a week later. For this reason, we find lt unwise to train each body part more than once every five days. Every part of your body you should train once a week which is the best way to grow.

Getting down to the actual type of workout, we find it necessary to touch on a theory for sets and reps. We consider low reps in the area of 4 to 8. If you do not stimulate the bulk of the fast witch muscle fibers in the area you ere working by rep 8, believe us you are not going to hit it. As far as the number of sets per body part, it varies according to the size of that group. Legs are going to need around 20 sets; shoulders will do fine with about 12 sets. We recommend that a good 3 to 5
minutes be taken between each set. The goal is to put out maximum explosive effort on each rep of each set,' you can't do that if you are still breathing hard from the prior set, or if the muscle is still burning. Experienced and well trained lifters can get as much of a pump from a heavy set of 6 reps on a lift as others might get from pushing the weight 40 times. We don't think that high rep sets do anything to build or even harden muscles.

At the beginning of each workout there is a warm-up of a few sets, These are high-rep sets designed to get the blood flowing in the muscle. We are training heavy, injure is certainly possible, By the time we get to the heaviest part of my bench workout for example, I have been lifting
for about 25 minutes. This is very important to remember; do not rush into the heavy weights. It takes time to warm up the muscle and surrounding joints they need to be lubricated.

Warm up your muscles good, before lifting heavy!

Also wrap your wrists and elbows for heavy upper body lifts, and knees for squats. Perfect form cannot be maintained for all heavy lifts, but an effort should be made. A little cheating can be a good thing, total disregard for form just to lift the weight can seriously injure you and is pretty stupid. Going heavy might mean lifting 500 1bs. or 200 lbs. for you personally. What ever the weight is, heavy is determined by your strength. Always push your strength, but remember it will take time to build it up. Forced reps are a good way to get used to weight that is out of your range. Doing a few forced reps on maximum lifts can help build strength.

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What are the best ways and what are best steroids for women to use?

Women athletes certainly do need to take a different approach to steroid use than males do. There are only a limited number of the drugs listed in this text that a woman would even want to consider. Among those are Primobolans, Proviron, Nolvadex, Nandrolones, Anavar, Winstrol, and synthetic Growth Hormone. It is important to note that even on the lowest dosages of any of these steroids, women can start to experience virilizing effects. This is because any amount of steroid introduced into the woman's endocrine system is a serious shock. Anabolic steroids are synthetic derivatives of male hormones and can cause serious adverse reactions in some women. The most prudent approach to giving anabolic steroids to the female involves the use of low dosages of very low androgenic items. Women obviously do not have to worry about the Gonadotrophic suppression that men do nor do they usually encounter much of a problem with the hepatotoxicity of anabolic steroids. This is because they most often use low dosages of very clean items. Since the most androgenic items tend to be the most toxic to the liver, by avoiding these items women also avoid the liver stress that most men undergo. Women can however benefit from the use of estrogen antagonists. Many women favor the use of Nolvadex and/or Proviron while trying to attain muscularity. Anabolic steroids have been extremely effective for many women athletes who use them to obtain size, strength and endurance. Since the virilizing effects women suffer from using anabolic steroids tend to be permanent, it is prudent to use caution at all times. One of the safer ways that I have seen women use anabolic steroids is to stack two low androgenic items for a period less than six weeks and then take several weeks off of the drugs before coming back to another four or five week cycle and then taking a good two months off of the drugs. With this pattern, women can watch for adverse reactions which usually occur in proportion to the duration of use by the female. The use of Growth Hormone by women has proven to be extremely effective in some cases. Since Growth Hormone is not an androgenic drug, it does not result in any virilizing effects for women. Growth Hormone greatly increases muscularity primarily by reducing body fat stores in the woman while leaving the lean muscle mass unaltered.

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I am starting a cycle of deca durabolin and sustanon. What drug should I use to bring up natural testosterone after the cycle?

After the cycle of anabolic stereoid is recommended to take HCG or Clomid or better even both. Dosage for Clomid is 50-100 mg per day, dosage for HCG is 5.000-10.000 I.U. per week.

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I have gotten in the habit of taking small amounts of Primobolan Depot or Deca off and on between cycles.Is this a bad practice?

It is common for people to use a small amount of a mild anabolic steroid between cycles, but it is not a good idea. Non-stop use can stop the body's natural testosterone production and other endocrine system functions from returning to normal. Although such low dosages would likely not show any toxicity nor promote any noticeable side effects, they would also not do much in the way of positive effects. Many bodybuilders continue to use small dosages of steroids between cycles because of their insecurities with letting go of steroids completely. Many steroid users develop an attitude that if they are not taking any steroids they are simply not making any gains, and to justify even training they will use small amounts of steroids between their cycles. If I were to make a recommendation on the use of low dosages of mild steroids between cycles I would not suggest it. The off cycle period is a time to train natural and let the body fully recover from the steroid use and you can only fully recover if all steroids are eliminated from the system.

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