Wow.
The lethargy is UNREAL!
Yesterday i began -
Test cyp 500mg
(250mg injected Tuesday and Thursday, 200mg of the test c injected will be from my own - pharmacy grade for my trt, the other 300 will be from Geno Tec)
Ghrp2 twice daily
(I've used ghrp2, cjc wo dac, igf lr3, and igf des in the past) I'll be using post workout (then immediately a shake, no carbs) and in the evening.
Mk 677
My plan was to start at 12.5mg and work up to 25mg daily (more on this below)
My primary source of protein is whey protein isolate. I've kept a pretty good diet having just completed my 5th week back in the gym after an injury. Most days (when able) i track my macros and have protein in the high 200's, carbs under 200 and fat around 100 or less (i weigh around 190, bf around 21%)
Anyway. Given that this week i wanted to begin my short blast (then titrate back down to 200mg test cyp) i got more dymatize whey isolate and picked up some muscle pharm combat powder (whey protein blend), also picked up some kre alkyn (buffered creatine) as this always helps my lifts (used it plenty before), more bcaa's....
So started all this yesterday.
Back to the mk 677...
Everything seems to be panning out okay.
But idk how on Gods earth I'd be able to take 25mg at night. Taking 12.5mg last night resulted in a great night of sleep (very restful and dreamful)
But the lethargy was so bad i could barely stay awake at work.
For the last hour or so I've done some research and it seems some ppl can't even take mk because of the sides.
I've also had an increase in appetite and tonight have pain in my left hand.
One thing i DON'T want (besides the lethargy - can't function with it) is water weight.
I had no idea it caused water retention.
The study i found from the board of endocrinology didn't cite any water weight in their findings as a side effect.
It also didn't cite any correlation between increases in prolactin or cortisol levels, yet I'm reading dozens of posts which point to the fact that it may?
So tonight I'm going to take 10mg and hope the lethargy subsides (like most ppl say)
I'm also going to decide (based on responses i get from this posting) if mk really is something i want to use.
Is it going to help me gain lean muscle mass (or alternatively bulk me up but I'll lose the water weight when I'm done leaving me with great gains)
If not its probably not for me. And I'm okay with that.
If that's the case I'll drop it and run the 500 mg of test maybe get some synthetol for site growth (which is what i really want)...
One of the postings i found cited that the difference between taking 10mg and 50mg was little in terms of hgh but high with regard to igf1. So if your someone like me who's dying for hyperplasia (or as close to it as you can get) you'd want to take a higher dose. Just not sure if i can.
Anyway, can any of you help with the following? (I've found a lot of conflicting info)
Does it affect cortisol or prolactin?
Does aswangda help with sides?
What is the minimal amount you can use (mg) for benefit?
How long have you used it?
What gains did you see?
What did you like best?
What did you like least?
Any advice?
Thanks all.
DM
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The lethargy is UNREAL!
Yesterday i began -
Test cyp 500mg
(250mg injected Tuesday and Thursday, 200mg of the test c injected will be from my own - pharmacy grade for my trt, the other 300 will be from Geno Tec)
Ghrp2 twice daily
(I've used ghrp2, cjc wo dac, igf lr3, and igf des in the past) I'll be using post workout (then immediately a shake, no carbs) and in the evening.
Mk 677
My plan was to start at 12.5mg and work up to 25mg daily (more on this below)
My primary source of protein is whey protein isolate. I've kept a pretty good diet having just completed my 5th week back in the gym after an injury. Most days (when able) i track my macros and have protein in the high 200's, carbs under 200 and fat around 100 or less (i weigh around 190, bf around 21%)
Anyway. Given that this week i wanted to begin my short blast (then titrate back down to 200mg test cyp) i got more dymatize whey isolate and picked up some muscle pharm combat powder (whey protein blend), also picked up some kre alkyn (buffered creatine) as this always helps my lifts (used it plenty before), more bcaa's....
So started all this yesterday.
Back to the mk 677...
Everything seems to be panning out okay.
But idk how on Gods earth I'd be able to take 25mg at night. Taking 12.5mg last night resulted in a great night of sleep (very restful and dreamful)
But the lethargy was so bad i could barely stay awake at work.
For the last hour or so I've done some research and it seems some ppl can't even take mk because of the sides.
I've also had an increase in appetite and tonight have pain in my left hand.
One thing i DON'T want (besides the lethargy - can't function with it) is water weight.
I had no idea it caused water retention.
The study i found from the board of endocrinology didn't cite any water weight in their findings as a side effect.
It also didn't cite any correlation between increases in prolactin or cortisol levels, yet I'm reading dozens of posts which point to the fact that it may?
So tonight I'm going to take 10mg and hope the lethargy subsides (like most ppl say)
I'm also going to decide (based on responses i get from this posting) if mk really is something i want to use.
Is it going to help me gain lean muscle mass (or alternatively bulk me up but I'll lose the water weight when I'm done leaving me with great gains)
If not its probably not for me. And I'm okay with that.
If that's the case I'll drop it and run the 500 mg of test maybe get some synthetol for site growth (which is what i really want)...
One of the postings i found cited that the difference between taking 10mg and 50mg was little in terms of hgh but high with regard to igf1. So if your someone like me who's dying for hyperplasia (or as close to it as you can get) you'd want to take a higher dose. Just not sure if i can.
Anyway, can any of you help with the following? (I've found a lot of conflicting info)
Does it affect cortisol or prolactin?
Does aswangda help with sides?
What is the minimal amount you can use (mg) for benefit?
How long have you used it?
What gains did you see?
What did you like best?
What did you like least?
Any advice?
Thanks all.
DM
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