People having enough......

[dorian777]

I don't have all the answers. I just thought we could have a nice civilized debate. No hard feeling on my end

As usual, it's a lot of fun. Nothing personal either bro. Just don't blaspheme God or Ronald Reagan anymore ok.

 

[amateurmale]

As usual, it's a lot of fun. Nothing personal either bro. Just don't blaspheme God or Ronald Reagan anymore ok.

Lol!

 

[srd1]

In 95' and 96' 3 bombs have gone off at the forest Service office and BLM offices. Dozens of threats have been directed at officers and agents. The agents were required to walk in pairs. If you don't think they should of came armed then you just don't know the history of this situation.

And if you dont think the citizens should have been armed then you simply dont know or understand history period.... i could cite several examples of citizens that said well its the government we should do exactly what they say and it didnt work out real well for them. Back to the point of this history lesson when citizens allow a government to run over them and take away their rights and freedoms history proves it only gets worse till it reaches a breaking point and a group of people are exterminated or they rise above and retake their freedom. I also dont believe they should have been their stealing the mans livelyhood armed or otherwise period

 

[Slate23]

Executive Order 12548 -- Grazing Fees. 2 Things you love. Grazing Fees and Executive orders. Who knew Reagan was a big government liberal who hated freedom so much?

 

[srd1]

I don't have all the answers. I just thought we could have a nice civilized debate. No hard feeling on my end

Thats what I thought we were doing? Neither of us should have hard feelings towards one another for the simple fact that neither of our opinions affect one or the other even in the slightest way im still gonna feel the way i do at the end of the day and so will you..

 

[Slate23]

You can be armed but you shouldn't be pointing guns at law officers. And if you don't want your stuff taken away then pay your taxes

 

[srd1]

Executive Order 12548 -- Grazing Fees. 2 Things you love. Grazing Fees and Executive orders. Who knew Reagan was a big government liberal who hated freedom so much?

Dude all politicians are lying cocksuckers .... some just suck more cock than others.

 

[srd1]

You can be armed but you shouldn't be pointing guns at law officers. And if you don't want your stuff taken away then pay your taxes

I would be willing to bet the man has paid milions of dollars in taxes income, personal property, sales...what he didnt pay was a fee a fee the government wanted for grazing cattle on public land wich they had been doing for years. You keep saying taxes isnt about taxes our greedy fucking government wanting to get more money they dont deserve and didnt earn.

 

[Slate23]

I don't like paying taxes either but we live in a society where we have to. So I ask you again. Don't pay your taxes or fees or whatever you owe the government. And then get your shit taken. Then we will see how you react b

 

[srd1]

I don't like paying taxes either but we live in a society where we have to. So I ask you again. Don't pay your taxes or fees or whatever you owe the government. And then get your shit taken. Then we will see how you react b

Im not in a position that I would have issues paying my taxes bro so thats kind of a mute point im also in the highest tax bracket so trust me i pay my fair share...far as me proving im willing to take a life in defense of my freedoms well slate im not going to get into it here but i was in the military for several years during war time so you can stop kicking that dog

 

[Slate23]

You support Cliven Bundy for not paying the Govenment what he owes. You said that you would even go there and fight with him. So now you have a chance to do what Cliven has done. Don't pay what you owe the government. You said yourself that the government takes to much.

 

[amateurmale]

I have to take a dump.

 

[Slate23]

There is a reason you pay your taxes. It's because you do want to go to jail. I might even agree with you that we pay too much in taxes. But that's irrelevant. If I wanted to get my taxes lowered I would try and do it the proper way. I wouldn't through a hissy fit like a fucking baby and start threatening violence. And for you guys to call yourselves Christians! I don't even think you have read the bible.

 

[srd1]

Slate never said people shouldnt pay their taxes not sure why taxes were even brought into this....he hasnt paid the government fees that THEY say he owes him and all the other ranchers believe the fees are to much or unjust. Ya I do believe the government takes to much i believe their greedy they spend and spend OUR money like theres no end to it and they have zero accountability to us as citizens. If you dispute that statement your just arguing for the sake of arguing with no real point and I would have to resort to calling you a fucktard because i havent met an american yet that feels differently than me on this matter with the exception of a few senators.lol

 

[amateurmale]

There is a reason you pay your taxes. It's because you do want to go to jail. I might even agree with you that we pay too much in taxes. But that's irrelevant. If I wanted to get my taxes lowered I would try and do it the proper way. I wouldn't through a hissy fit like a fucking baby and start threatening violence. And for you guys to call yourselves Christians! I don't even think you have read the bible.

Tisk tisk you can't say something doesn't exist then try to hold people accountable to it. Christians, God etc. Lol.

 

[Slate23]

I never said Christians or the Bible didnt exist. Try to keep up AM. And Sdr1. What's the difference between taxes and fees? It's just money going to the government. And I never said anything about whether I feel the government spends too much or takes too much. It's irrelevant. The law is what it is. There are ways to change it. Threatening people one of them. Now you think the government takes to much in the fees from ranchers and too much in taxes from you. One of them is refusing to pay and is willing to shoot someone. Why won't you?

 

[srd1]

What the government "takes" from its citizens is very relevant slate not sure why you cant understand that because at what point does one say enough already...thats what this dude and his supporters have done theyve said enough this is where we take a stand and i apluad them for it. The government set aside 300,000 something acres for a habitat for an endangered turtle but hey if you pay this fee you can go ahead and graze there and it wont hurt the turtle but if you dont pay the fee then your endangering this endangered turtle.....give me a fucking break slate just another way for the government to fuck a few more million out of its citizens man and his family had grazing rights long before the feds decided they could fuck him out of more money with their fees. You keep saying their willing to shoot someone over these fees their will ing to shoot someone in defense of their property and armed people threatening to shoot them the son got tazed and arrested because he kicked an attack dog why was a trained attack dog close enough for him to kick it the fucking agent was trying to intimidate him with his dog shit aint right bro

 

[Slate23]

Ok then. If you agree with what Bundy is doing then by aren't you doing the same thing?

 

[srd1]

I never said Christians or the Bible didnt exist. Try to keep up AM. And Sdr1. What's the difference between taxes and fees? It's just money going to the government. And I never said anything about whether I feel the government spends too much or takes too much. It's irrelevant. The law is what it is. There are ways to change it. Threatening people one of them. Now you think the government takes to much in the fees from ranchers and too much in taxes from you. One of them is refusing to pay and is willing to shoot someone. Why won't you?

Why wont I? Slate Im gonna say this one more time I have taken lives in the defense of my beliefs and freedoms as well as yours so there is your response is it the one you wanted?

 

[srd1]

Slate Ill ask you again since you ignored the question earlier. Have you ever put yourself in a position to take a life or to pay the ultimate price for defending your beliefs and protecting your freedoms? If so please elaborate.... Im guessing no...am i wrong?