The Grim Repper
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Human grade is GMP standards .
but also cld mean...higher dose...exact dose...sterile.
Some UGLs follow GMP standards, however that is only one aspect of pharmaceutical manufacturing.
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Human grade is GMP standards .
but also cld mean...higher dose...exact dose...sterile.
Yup. Glad I'm no newb anymore. Like you said, though, some of us are even touchy about inquires as to who is good and not.
Not sure that encourages a good market. I know for a fact I've gotten bunk gear from a source that has good gear because I was nobody once and the source knew no one would listen if I spoke up. If I even knew to speak up.
Even now, with significant experience and knowledge, most of the time I get shot down if I question any source.
Paradigm shift needs to happen. The customer is the driver of this market, not the supplier.
I agree but doubtful. I think what you mean is that you would like the customer to drive the market, not the seller. Fact is, in any unregulated market, it's a seller's market and buyer beware. Without getting into a whole lecture, I'll just say that what many in the West would want (unregulated markets) which is much more beneficial to the seller and less to the consumer vs regulated markets which are often more beneficial to the consumer (and IMO ultimately, the sellers). Unfortunately, this is a more philosophical belief than anything else. No matter what your preference, deregulation or regulation, we can be certain that this particular market will remain a seller's market for a very, very long time.Paradigm shift needs to happen. The customer is the driver of this market, not the supplier.
I used to think if it was an ampule, it is human grade. This is not the case. UGL's can package their product in amps just as easily as vials.
Some UGLs follow GMP standards, however that is only one aspect of pharmaceutical manufacturing.
Pm me, I will send you a link where you can buy empty amps. You just arent shopping in the right place. There is no special equipment required. All it takes is a pair of pliers and a torch. It takes less than 10 seconds to close an ampule. Infact, it would be cheaper for an UGL to use amps if they were 10mL each.
Ofcourse, nobody wants to use an amp that holds 10mL because a user couldnt use all of that at once.
Thats why no one is making them in their kitchens.
There are lots of videos on you tube that show how to close ampules. Everything you need is at home depot.
To me it is sold in a Pharmacy. A legitimate Licensed and Branded
Company. Now there are compounding Pharmicies also making HG products.
That is not far from Ugl though imo.
Hg In USA uses laboritory tested raws made in USA by USA qualified manufactorers.. Not the chinese brand commonly used In UG brands which can And may have higher than allowd lead..mercury or some other substance not allowed by US government.: for example One hg amp made india " aquaviron" uses Thimerosal ( a disinfectant preservative ) which was used in children vaccines but removed due to toxicidity to human organs In USA , but not all countries removed it so it all depends on the country what their HG standard is. Sure isnt china I know that . Lol
The amps that IB is talking about are very much human grade (HG). They are not FDA human grade but the FDA is far from the world standard in what's safe and what's not safe. Almost every industrialized nation has it's own respective regulatory agency. Just as thimerosal is no longer approved for use in products and banned by the FDA, the FDA has greenlighted many drugs that are banned in other countries.Sounds like a great standard. I wonder if that's what sources mean when they claim HG? Hopeful but doubtful.
Herein lies the problem is the US regulatory process. It's not safety first, it's dollars first. See below: