there is this machine that i like to use at the gym it sits you at an incline and as you push out the handles come together at the point where you lock out your arms there are no cable, chaines or anything to that sort it just works off of a pivot point , and yes i know it's not like i am really pushing that true weight but i am adding more weight to it every time i use it , before i could push 180 6 times , then yestarday i did two sets of 4 at 270, i was so pumped up that i wanted to just head butt the weight s man that shit was great. my body seems to be responding to the test c alot better than the test e. , just wanted to share.... 