Can somone explain this to me? Does this mean if there is no test done with the Tren then there will be no risk of Aromatization? Or is the fact that Tren will shut down the natural Test production so there for leave the body in an unbalanced state wich could lead to the side effects mentioned in this article. I chose Anavar over the summer because it does not convert , and because although it will slow down the natural production it does not shut it down the way Deca or Dbol would. Some say that there is no need for a PCT after Anavar but the concensous seems to be that a PCT is always used with the Tren. I am trying to weigh out how risky Gyno is with Tren. I am getting conflicting info as I research it on line. Some say that it is extremlly rare while this one seems to say its likelly. Thanks guys "
Despite the fact that trenbolone cannot aromatise, due to the progesterone route it can cause things like gynecomastia, but this will only really happen in the presence of estrogen. This does happen though in many users, as trenbolone is usually stacked with a testosterone, which obviously can and will convert to estrogen. Gynecomastia from trenbolone can be quite bad many will find, however if you do not suffer from this than other estrogenic side effects should not be of worry, as trenbolone does not cause any water retention or similar, but in fact often gives a hardened look and feel to the muscles"
Tren shouldn't really be compared to test too much in that respect. I would say it is more like a super strength deca. To understand it you first need to know exactly what it is. Trenbolone is a 19-nor derived steroid, in the 19-nor Testosterone (Nandrolone) family. Therefore it is structurally similar to Deca, although it has a c-9 and c-11 double bond. Basically the c-9 bond is the reason why you see far less water retention with Tren compared to deca. The c-9 bond prevents any conversion (aromatization) to estrogen.
However the c-11 double bond seems to increase androgen receptor binding significantly (because of other things too). The lack of estrogen activity and the strong androgen receptor binding make tren a much more powerful androgen than deca (why I would describe it a super strength deca). By reason of this it eliminates all water gain and makes the majoritry of weight gained simply quality muscle.
All compounds you use have an anabolic/androgenic rating and this are indications of their strength. All compounds are based on the values of test (1st steroid) which is 100/100. As mentioned above tren is extremely strong and has a value of 500/500. That is 5 times more than test so shows why side effects are common with tren. I have to add though the fact it is much higher is other reason why it is much better for anabolism as well as fat loss (and hardening). I can list numerous great points about tren because it is a great compound. But with its strength also comes the increased chance of bad side effects.
The main draw back to tren is that it seems to reduce aerobic capacity, probably owing to bronchial dilation from increased prostaglandin formation. This increased prostaglandin production can lead to other sides. As stated above I suspect this is the main reason for the infamous 'tren cough'.
You hit on something too. As you know it is a progestin, so high amounts can lead to its own gyno etc. Prolaction is not a nice thing so you have to be careful. Thats why I would always have dostinex on hand if I was using tren in a cycle. Dost is better than Brimo has the later can be fairly harsh on you (dizziness etc). Dostinex can too but the chances are far lower compared to Brimo.
The fact tren is a progestin also means it can exacerbate the estrogenic effects of aromatizable steroids. I would like to think anyone using tren would also be using test (plus others in some cases). Therefore, it may increase the chance of estrogenic sides fro the other steroids. Therefore, all users have to be careful and should have the relevant protection on hand always.
Tren is an amazing compound but it should not be used lightly. Newbies should avoid it till they have a few cycles under their belts. But if you have experience of cycles and want to try it out I imagine you will only love it. But like I said it is simply not needed for newbies and can lead to alsorts of problems.
I have only used it once and that was tren e at 350mg per week and I loved it. I encountered most of the usual sides but they were manageable and not severe in any way. I plan to use tren a (more of a kick) for future cutting cycles. But I will wait till the year after next. I also plan to use tren e again for bulking cycles with test.
Hope it helps