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max lift said:first what are your stats and where would you like to be ?
how old are ya ?
what is you training history?
for a first cycle test is what is best .
hope this helps the other products should be put aside till you know if your body can handle test ,
There are others with wayyyyy more experiance on this bord than me but I think thay will tell you the same.
travis said:Ok I am 30 yrs old and have been working out for about 10 yrs.
6ft 1 220 want to be 240 lean I dont have to be huge but want to put on some quality muscle
the thing with the test is that needles scare me like snakes do
BIGENUFF said:Like the Tin man from OZ just a little Oil is all it takes
excellent advice as usual from bigenuff. i started using deca/test in my delts last year and it made a significant change in their size almost immediately mainly due to the oil volume being injected into them forced the muscles to stretch out a little to accomodate the injection. i use deca in almost all my cycles because of the joint lube affect. at 39 i need all the help i can get to keep the joints workin properly.BIGENUFF said:Basically if your thinking about doing Orals for your first cycle. Then be warned they can be more harsh on the body than the inj. D-Bol also can be a little annoying since you can get your pounds on but as soon as your about a week off of it you will notice some size loss. Turanibol and D-Bol are goog to stack but only fair by themselves. The one thing you will enjoy when doing and inj cycle is the appearance of on site injecting. You can enhance your medial deltoids (shoulders) and glutes when hitting a fair amount of deca or test. These two would be a good start for you since your 30 and have been training for 10 years. At 30 your test levels are already dropped and deca will help alleviate some of the 10 year stress on your joints and ligaments if you have any creaky spots. Like the Tin man from OZ just a little Oil is all it takes Good luck and keep posted.
Believe me when I say we were all scared the first time.travis said:Thanks for the advice. I guess Im gonna have to nut up and stab on my self. god help me