congrats to both of you guys for starting your first cycles.
bigguns, concerning your second week when you didnt feel well, that was a reaction to the gear. your body isnt sure what to make of this new synthetic product you are injectiong into it so it will have a reaction, its what they call "test flu" it has varied affects on people depending on dosing amounts, how your own individual body reacts to anything getting injected into it etc.
mr-t did you star to feel it in your shoulders after you stopped the creatine or before? if after what may have happened is the water retention the creatine was creating may have helped your shoulder to not feel any pain or discomfort from a bad muscle. i know my left shoulder acts up alot but when i take deca which also causes alot of bloating in me, i hardly feel anything in my shoulder during the cycle.