as stated above your choices seem like some of your buddies told you to use this bad combo. altho i dont think winny is a bad drug to use, it surely isnt any good by iteslf, as i believe any oral cycle is. 1st, i would check your diet and cardio which is the basis for losing weight. i would drop the winny until you decide you are ready to poke some test. as for the clen, with a good diet and cardio it works great with me. start at 40 mcg for a few days, then 60 mcg for a few, working your way up to 100mcg daily or find the dose at which you can tolerate the sides such as headaches, queasy feeling, etc. cycle clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off..
more importantly, use the search button at the top of the page and read thru some articles and experiences. you will learn more and keep yourself safer with knowledge....good luck