well guys i am now starting to see some good gains and so is everybody else i have had 4 different people say to me that i look like i am getting thicker. one guy came into the locker room while i was changing my shirt and he was like DAMN DOG YOU LOOK FUCKEN THICK he hasnt seen me in about a month. also this was good for me ego i came out of the gas station yestarday without my shirt on and this chick in the passinger seat started breaking her neck checken me out and then gave me a little wave.... :smoker: