the low dose of deca is a plus glucosamine is a must regardless. You have to remember too that tren will shut you down in a heart beat i run hcg regulare on mast cycles through out....i dont recomend being like me, I'm 53 for now and rarely ever run any kind of pct other than hcg durring. I repeat, dont be like me, i bounce back pretty good and since I spend so much time on and when i do come off I still am on HRT then i have never really needd to spend time on pct but tren is about the only exception to this...I do run pct following a tren cycle...damn, that was long winded jsut to say that little bit...Md