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Suspensions are TNE. But if I understand you, I think what you're just saying is use the OIL-based versions of suspension (where the test is better dissolved).
I haven't looked into the oil-based suspensions. I have no problem whatsoever with the water-based. Maybe someone with more info on this will chime in. I know they're saying the absorption of the oil-based is more rapid from a molecular perspective. I just haven't done the research. The previous suspensions already took my T levels to ridiculously high levels. I'm not sure why I would want to increase those levels even higher. Jeeez.... Testosterone isn't crack!
Technically, testosterone is not really suspended in oil, it's dissolved (even when there is no ester attached to the molecule). In water, the stuff just settles to the bottom of the amp or vial until you shake it. What you said makes sense since the difference between testosterone (no ester) and testosterone propionate (a very short ester) would not seem to be that great in terms of release times. I have not yet seen anything that would make me think it would be all that much faster although it definitely would be more rapid - although how much more rapid, I don't know. The fact to consider here is, once the testosterone is released from it's oily depot, ester or not, it becomes bio-available almost immediately. That alone says a lot.
OuchThatHurts said:
Sounds like your fellow gave you junk. I've never had a reaction like that with Agoviron. I know what the "article" says but testosterone base, testosterone suspension, testosterone no ester, it's all the same thing - same solubility, same hydrophobicity. Are you trying to say that dissolving non-esterified testosterone in oil somehow changes it's properties?
Only in one vague study done on horses. That's the thing. If you've ever done suspension, especially in a muscle that used often, there's no week-later peak or spike. Not that I've ever noticed. Seriously. Not even trying to be argumentative but does that really add up? Human physiology determines how suspension and all IM injections work. Not studies with horses. Even the clinical pharmacology from the manufacturer that requires a great amount of R&D show a much shorter absorption mechanism of action within just a few hours. If some residual testosterone is left at the injection site, it would be cleared in a timely fashion perhaps over a day or two. Not a week later. Even if there is residual compound in the muscle, why would it just decide to absorb a week later? It's highly questionable to say the least. I would never do a suspension that was 100mg/ml. That's just asking for trouble. If you make a cup of tea, would the sugar suspended in the tea be more likely to settle if you put one teaspoon of sugar or four?
